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I am starting work on some really cool videos on the Early Colonial period, including those in South Carolina. You will get to see my new high resolution 3D people and animals. Thanks for writing - Richard Thornton

The Olmec Civilization was inaccurately named by a Gringo archaeologist in the late 1930s. The real Olmecs did not arrive in southern Mexico until around 1100 -1200 AD.

Not Sure What The Olmecs Being Inaccurately Named By An Archaeologist In The 1930’s Actually Means? 🤷🏾‍♂️ And You Stated That The Olmecs Didn’t Arrive In Southern Mexico Until An AD Period? What? We All Know You Do Not Believe That 😂 Especially, When You All Know That The Olmecs Are The Mother Culture Of All The Americas… Which Also, Happens To Be My Family. You People Have To Stop 🛑 With All The Lies Man. 🤦🏾‍♂️

I published a heavily illustrated guidebook to the archaeological sites in the NE Georgia Mountains , which includes many of my architectural renderings, but the retail stores here won't carry it because I am not a member of the Republican Party. No, I am not kidding or exaggerating. A store owner from Pennsylvania telephoned me that she wanted to order a hundred copies of the guidebook from my publisher. The very same day, she received a visit from two sheriff's deputies, who advised her that "she would have problems" if she did business with me. Of course, my Creek Indian ancestors lived in this valley many centuries before the deputy's ancestors arrived to work in the textile mills and chicken processing plants.

@@peopleofonefire9643 i hear ya buddy, and i ain't surprised, i hate to say. i'm one of those rare left-leaning Appalachians, lol. i've encountered a fair bit of hostility, even trying to be careful about discussing anything remotely political, and still, it's been an eye-opening experience. it's a mixed bag here in KY, but many people, they will absolutely not speak to you, will be real leery and suspicious of you, or will be outright hostile, if they suspect you harbor "librul" sympathies. no distinguishing between Democrat, liberal, leftist, socialist, communist, anarchist, etc. no room for discussion or a nuanced conversation, and no room for showing what kind of person you are by your actions ... they have their assumptions about what kind of person y'are, and that's that. and it's a damn shame. the same thing happens on the other side, too i suppose. well, i'll say it again, i personally really, really appreciate the amount of effort, time and care that you've put into this research. i think it was extremely informative, i think its very important for all people who call Appalachia home, and for anyone interested in the deep past and the history of our nation, and Appalachia specifically.

@@maryefromky Of course, nowadays, Richard Nixon would be considered a radical Marxist since he planned to implement National Healthcare in his second term. I always considered myself a middle of the roader - but the new breed of Republicans in the South are pushing people into what is really Fascism.

Scott was very easy to work with, when we filmed the premier at my cabin. In contrast , the key people in the film company were constantly arguing with each other and rather contemptuous of me. In the original form, the program would have made me look like a stupid redneck. However, after the lab at the University of Minnesota found a 100% match between attapulgite mined in Georgia and Maya Blue, Scott successfully pressured the film company to modify how they portrayed me at the end. Scott has not communicated with me since he joined the Masons and began focusing on the Templars.

Your not the only one who has noticed a difference. And I appreciate your honesty about your experience. It reminds me that Im going off of intuition and while I would be a fool not to pay attention to my own intuition it definitely would be foolish for other people to pay attention to my intuition 🤣 I really honestly shouldn't even have left that comment but I got so emotionally wrapped up in your story. I feel your pain. And although my story is quite a bit different from yours-- my credentials are quite a bit different than yours--the truth is the truth and it doesn't take a long list of credentials to know when one is being lied to

@@peopleofonefire9643 and I hope you keep going forward. Its important work

That's really a pretty area, where you are focusing your research. Years ago, while I was living in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, we went up to see Falling Water, the house designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. There explored the region. A lot of the valleys feel like a "Lost World" or Shangra La.

@@peopleofonefire9643my wife was a tour guide there in her college days and we currently live within 10 miles from Fallingwater. It is a beautiful area! They've opened up a second Frank Loyd Wright house for tours btw. Kentuck Knob. Well worth a tour!

And thank you for the kind comment!

@@peopleofonefire9643 Anytime. I live in Augusta, GA and actually just got back from Clarks Hill Lake. You’ve really lit a fire (pun intended) into searching for Native American artifacts. It is really becoming a passion of mine. I just wish I didn’t wait until my mid-40’s to receive this calling. That being said, I can’t wait to read your books. Take care and I hope you have a great week!

A film company is working on a TV documentary on Fort Caroline. The program will discuss how economic boosters in Jacksonville conned the US Government to accepting where teenagers like to park, make out., while tourists like to look at the river into being an archaeological site. No 16th century artifacts have been found there or nearby.

@@peopleofonefire9643 I hear you.... 👍

Yes, al of my Native American DNA is from southern Mexico and eastern Peru also. How do you know that you have Yamasee ? They pretty much became extinct after 1715. Your DNA combo is pretty typical of Creeks in eastern and northern Georgia.

I don't think that anybody knows what they looked like. The acid soil and high humidity of the Southeast generally dissolves vegetative fibers within a few years. There are very few artistic portrayal of people in the Woodland Period.

@@peopleofonefire9643 they at least wouldn’t have looked like “glorified hunter gatherers” wouldn’t they?

No, they would not have looked like hunter-gatherers. Woven fabrics and fish nets were found in the peat of Windover Pond in Florida and dated to be 6-8,000 years old.,@@thederpylizard3526

There is a Creek Community near you in a crater that the Flint River runs through. It is theoretically eligible for Federal recognition.

@@peopleofonefire9643 I was fishing at approximately [ 32°44'09"N 84°15'47"W On google earth ] below swift creek and I found broken pottery that lined the banks and sandbars that was in abundance. There was thousands of pieces. I began to inquire about this and from my knowledge The was a Green Corn Ceremony that happen in the summer. When Harvey Green took over the land and cleared it. They picked up all the pottery and stone tools and threw them in the river. It was a sad day that all these artifacts had been destroyed. Know this was when I was about 25 years old. I live in Missouri now and I think about this from time to time. Just thought I would pass this information along as very few people know about this site. Thank you and may you quest for the truth prevail.

@@peopleofonefire9643 Good morning Sir, Thought I would give some info about a site that I became aware of when I was in my 30's. I was fishing on the flint and discovered a site . As i was fishing I came to A spot with a sandbar and high banks .I began to find pottery in great amounts. Of course it was broken. after I got home I began to make some inquires What I learned was there was a Green Corn Ceremony that took place every summer. When the land was cleared for farming the pottery was carried to the river and tossed in. I was heartbroken that these relics had been discarded in such a way. The last time I visited it was 2016 and it was still there all along the river banks. I have never told anyone of what I discovered and this is the first time I have talked about it. I hope you have a safe journey on what I believe in revealing the truth.

By tinkering to you mean "amateur artifact hunters?" My guess is "probably yes." However, I don't know that for a fact. There is no evidence of a war between Cahokia and Etula (Etowah Mounds) It is somebody's fairytale because Cahokia's population was plummeting when the second occupation began . Cahokia was completely abandoned by 1350 AD. The third occupation did not differ much from the second occupation, except that construction stopped on Mound A and some noble's houses elsewhere had low mounds underneath them.

@@peopleofonefire9643 I wasn't talking about war between Cahokia and Etowah but Moundville in Alabama. A Gorget was found in Etowah of a Birdman stabbing a moth: which seemed to be an important symbol in Moundville, which suggest conflict. This also doesn't relate to the previous questions, but i would like to know what happened to the helmet crest? were they just thrown away?

Moundville began declining around 1300 AD and by 1350 many mounds were abandoned. The second abandonment of Etowah coincides with the founding of the capital of Kaushe (Coosa) on the Coosawattee River. The timing of the abandonment of Etowah coincides when the Bubonic Plague hit Iceland and Greenland. I am inclined to think that Scandinavian refugees or traders took the Plague to the Americas.

@@peopleofonefire9643 so the timeline goes like this: 1370s: Etowah is at its height ~1375: Etowah is suddenly abandoned for some reason, either plague or something else 1380-1400s: Etowah is slowly repopulated by Coosa 1400s-1540s- Etowah is fully settled again and is an autonomous chiefdom under the Coosa paramountcy/kingdom 1540s-1600s: De Soto happens, everything kinda goes to hell, Etowah enters final decline and abandonment

@@thederpylizard3526 There was a fourth occupancy, which may have been a development of the third occupancy that lasted until the early 1700s. The professors who guided the remodeling of Etowah Museum "erased" that phase, but you can still see the footprints of its buildings on the plaza of Mound A.

Officially, the entire archaeological zone and its parking lot is closed to the public. I understand that somehow finding a a place to part and hiking in Track Rock Gap.

@@peopleofonefire9643 yeah its right next to the arkaquah trail head i knew about the petroglyphs but i didnt know about the tombs

The Creek Indians are from southern Mexico. It is not a theory. Its a fact. All of my Native American DNA is from southern Mexico and eastern Peru. However, the Creeks were originally a confederacy of at least 14 tribes, who had similar cultural heritages. There are so many websites on UA-cam about Native American heritage, it is hard to get across to people that I am not just another amateur with a pet theory to promote. My fellowship coordinator in Mexico was the internationally famous archaeologist, Roman Pina Chan. He was half Maya and from Campeche.

@@peopleofonefire9643 Thank you, Richard. I appreciate your comments and video. I did not wish to make any assumptions and had not yet deduced you were Native American nor that the Creek Indians were/are from Southern Mexico. I was aware of your fellowship connections. I do not doubt your facts - I'm just now 'finding' you in this, my initial stages of discovery and research. I am a biologist (wildlife) of Irish-American and Danish-American decent. My interests stems from attempting to discover what peoples first inhabited Mesoamerica and from whence they came. Also, how did the Creek Indians come to reside in southern Mexico - did they emigrate from elsewhere? Those are a few of my BIG questions. My Dad was a missionary in Mexico City from 1959-62. His interest in and love for the people and culture of that area has taken root in me. Sincerely and Respectfully, Robert

Most likely these tribes and bands in southern Mexico were the result of multiple immigrations into the region and then various combinations of mixing. The Zoque or Soque were probably Sea Sami (Sjoke in Gamla Norsk) from the coastal areas of Scandinavia. Over time, repeated intermarriage with Native Americans made them look more like Native Americans, except that wore beards. Most of the petroglyphs in NE and north central Georgia are identical to Bronze Age petroglyphs in southern Sweden. I worked in Landskrona, Sweden after graduation from Georgia Tech. @@bobpeterson4930

Actually, the real Maya originated in Florida. The majority of the people, we now call tribes of the Maya did not call themselves that name, until the Spanish told that was their name. By the time of Spanish Conquest, there were also real Maya tribes on the tip of Yucatan. Miami gets its name from Mayami - which means "Maya-place of - principal (capital) in Itza Maya. A Spanish "Y" is pronounced like a long I in English. I discussed all this in my 5 hour interview with Scott Wolter for the premier of America Unearthed. However the History Channel film crew deleted it because they wanted to make Scott look like the expert and me look like a hick.

@@peopleofonefire9643 Do they belong to the same haplogroup?

Not exactly the same, but in general. There were something like 140 "Maya" tribes. There are significant differances in the physical appearances of the "Maya tribes". The Creeks and Seminoles are mostly descended from the western Maya tribes, who tend to be much taller than those in Guatemala and Honduras.@@garafanvou6586

All of this is tremendously tantalizing. These stories are waiting to be told. I also just read about the Seminoles and the translation of the name. This was really unexpected. Thanks

@@peopleofonefire9643this is a fact I am a creek Indian I speak hitchiti (itsate creek) in our language it’s mostly comprised of totonac and Itza Maya words . The word hitchiti is Itza Mayan word it means to look up the stream. Anytime u see the word chi in a word it means mouth or edge as in the mouth of a river? We are river/ sun people . Any native american word that ends with “Ti” or “Te” it signifies a tribe of people like itsa-“te” or hitchi-ti for example means Itza people hitchiti means people of the streams or it can mean to look up the stream basically the people who look up the stream or who use the streams. This is why we were called creeks because we were found by creeks, rivers, lakes, streams etc . Itza means water magicians We are Mayans for sure in fact, simple google will tell you that creek Indians carry Mayan dna . Also some Cherokees (aniyunwiya) I’m also part aniyunwiya I’m mixed between multiple American Indian tribes yvmvse creek (seminolé) and aniyunwiya (ani-kituwah) are only two of them. Also Mayan glyphs were found by archeologists on swift creek pottery in GA . How would creek pottery (which obviously was designed by creeks) have Mayan glyphs on it if we aren’t Mayans? Where did we get the idea to put Mayan glyphs on our pottery from ? Why would we use Mayan glyphs if we aren’t Mayans? So many questions arise the more in depth you go with this creek Indian and Mayan connection thing it’s lovely .

I agree. There are smaller cities near Uxmal, with the same "exquisite details" but not at the scale of Uxmal.

So the town of abhika I think was the creek name on the tallaseehatchee was multi ethnical with 3 different cultures/peoples living in one village: Creek, Natchez, and Kanza

@@zcoosa1648 I have a copy of an 1684 French map, which shows Apeka (actual name) as one of the towns here in the Nacoochee Valley. There were Kanza here originally. A 1701 French map shows Apeka in NE Tennessee. After the Creek-Cherokee War broke out, Apeka is shown in NW Georgia on a tributary of the Coosa River then later in NE Alabama.

You are welcome,! I now have 50 videos posted on the People of One Fire Channel - covering most of the sites in southern Mexico and northern Georgia. Merry Christmas!

I just found out that there was a maritime culture of red ochre people also in finland. No evidence if cultures of the maritime red paint peoples of north american and those of finland ever had any connections.