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@@OS-Advertising right on. These frameworks are game changers for indie devs

@@MikeMunroe ESPECIALLY with htmx and some ui kits like flowbite, using the blocks that flowbite provides with htmx makes it reaaaaaally feel exactly on the level of spas with zero of the negatives, and you can use any backend you want that supports template fragments you can decide exactly wich parts of the ui to swap and how to swap them and you can even run JS on the front end from your backend by returning a script tag..... i had a huuuuge problem with react because i tended to want to use a bunch of js libraries and i realized that i needed to basically make wrappers around all vanilla js libraries or use react specific libraries only .... it was so annoying to do simple things like have a form with a map and when you select an address on the map it fills the form, because google maps have their map in vanilla js ...... it's also very annoying that when ever you're using a js framework you always feel like if you do not use the full stack framework that goes with it next nuxt sveltkit you are missing out on all the features wich ends up basically making you pick JS / TS to write both backend and frontend ... and that comes with it's problems too especially for heavy computations you will need a separate service written in an other language to handle these tasks

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You have performance problems?

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Ha, I love it. The not plain Vanilla JS made me laugh the most.

Glad it was helpful. Have you tried Rails or Hotwire?

@@MikeMunroe I have. I’m getting back into it, coding alongside tutorials. I have things I want to build.

Why are you introducing API calls or webhooks if you can make DB calls? I think you’re jumping to complexity that is not needed. Webhooks and APIs for 3rd party data, sure, but not for your own data. I would also suggest staying away from Lambda and would argue the cost savings for on demand servers is not worth the complexity. 🙂

@robertschlackman3845 I wish that wasn't the case 🙂When I moved from Ember to React, I thought React had a lot of promise, but you can't get away from the issues inherent with a SPA framework in front of an API. There are now other, more simpler options to build dynamic full stack apps without separating a front end and back end API. Overall, I think splitting product platforms up is driven more by the size of the team, then any other reason. There is just more complexity that is no longer needed.

Good luck in your learnings.

You can also consider angular, the great thing about angular is that it has it's own ecosystem, it is a full-fledged framework and so most of what you need to create a production application is available for you in angular. Angular with rxjs is very powerful and has all the features to suit your needs. Then if you want server side rendering you can check out analog. Angular is still very widely used in the market so you definitely won't struggle to find opportunities with it either. I am a react dev myself, and enjoy my time with it, though I will admit the challenges are there in looking for external packages to use for specific features. Using react-based frameworks like nextjs or remix which come with their own presets can help alleviate some of the challenges in having to find packages and finding the best way to structure your projects.

Many companies use different solutions for state management, especially depending on the age of the code base

I'm a big fan of full stack Ruby on Rails with Hotwire. The speed of execution not having a SPA architecture is hard to pass up.

Thanks for the comment. Great idea.

Are you a fan of React? Any insights you would like to share?

Yes, check out a great list of resources here masilotti.com/ruby-on-rails-communities/

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Ruby on Rails and Hotwire do not support SVG filters natively, but there is nothing that holds you back from using them in Rails project. You can define an SVG for rendering in your view and set a filter on it. For those not familiar with SVG filters, you can follow along an example shown at dev.to/paulryan7/svg-filters-why-you-so-confusing-5f4f. Give it a try in your Rails view. Should work as expected.

@@MikeMunroe <feDiffuseLighting> from browser to browser gives different results, so you have to correct this with JS. If something from Meta or others is used in between, I think it will either not work at all as with all these converters or in the best case not work well.

I like Vue more than React.

If you or your team are experts with React, but not much expertise with other frameworks/libraries, go for it.

Yes. Years of Ember before years of React. You’re right though, my naming is off. I should have said class components, not HOCs.

I’ve done my fair share of refactoring legacy React code to utilize hooks.

Do you agree that React has had major shifts within its ecosystem within the last 5+ years?

@@MikeMunroe Oh goodness yes. React Router v6 broke several personal projects and threw me for a loop until I figured it out. It's definitely more efficient and easier to read/use overall, there were just so many changes.

Loads of jobs in my country, and I assume they'll only increase as companies choose anything other than React.

There are still limited options for cross platform mobile development. React Native is a good option. I’m familiar with Flutter, but have not used it in depth enough to have an opinion. That said, I’m interested in trying it in a project. I would say, if you are comfortable with JS and React, React Native is probably a safer choice.

I think it's a great resource for learning Ruby, Rails and other technologies.

Probably Angular

he says it at the end, RoR

Vanilla JS :)

Thanks, glad it was helpful.

Check out www.theodinproject.com/paths/full-stack-ruby-on-rails/courses/ruby. They also have a Rails course.

Sounds great. Sounds like you are having some great results with Angular.

That’s awesome. Welcome to the Ruby and Rails world. SupeRails and Go Rails are some great channels on YT to check out. Also, anything from Joe Masilotti YT or on his site on the Rails Hotwire/Turbo mobile stuff is gold.

Is that a good decision in 2024??

@@jorgemacea7575 It all depends on your project. Lots of UI features, i would go with svelte, else i would use rails. That is if you are trying to build something -- if you are job hunting, maybe try a different stack.

@@jorgemacea7575 Yes. Hotwire in Rails has made it an even better option to go with these days.

Thats great. Curious, with your Android background, why not check out Java Spring?

@@MikeMunroe I'm also learning Spring for about 8 months now, I decided learning React as front end just for curiosity and to do something different from work and challenging myself tbh. React has some similarities with Jetpack compose which is the new declarative way of building UI in Android. I like the way frameworks and libraries seem to be converging in a similar way to build UI

@@jonathancampos8929sounds great. If you are enjoying React, keep going, especially if you have some Java background. A. Good comparison.

Using straight Ruby would be the path you are suggesting which can be done, but then you are rebuilding a lot of commodity pieces that you can leverage for web and mobile dev. The opinionated nature of Rails, after you get up to speed can have a tremendous impact on speed of the team to deliver high quality software. I think you should always do what works best for the skills yourself or your team already has expertise in. That is the best decision.

With your .NET app, it sounds like you compiled it, but did not obfuscate it. It’s very easy to decompile those bits that aren’t obfuscated. I’m not sure I understand your concerns though. You should only be running production code on a trusted server. Who has access to the code that you would not want to have access?

Good luck with Vue and Laravel. Good choice.

Flutter is an option here, and Elektron. I would argue that React Native is also a good path if you do have to support iOS and Android on mobile. It is a pain to support 2 platforms, but we leverage Turbo Native iOS and Turbo Native Android when tackling greenfield web + mobile apps. I don’t love React in any way, but wouldn’t fault someone for using React Native if that’s the most efficient way for a team to support both iOS and Android.

Thanks for sharing. Future proofing should always be on everyone’s radar. Tech changes quick, so that is not always easy and we should be careful with premature optimization, but the longer something can stand up without change driven by product, the better. Thanks for your comment.

Maybe I’ll cover that at some point. If you are doing a lot of data science related coding, Python should be your choice. That’s one reason to not use Rails. Another reason is your team does not have Ruby skills. If they all have expertise with Java or C# or Go, that language or framework they have expertise in should be the core of your stack.

Try out Svelte or HTMX.

@@MikeMunroe i leaned react, now I'm leaving nextjs from a week with typescript. Do you think it's good?

@@indimerz I think if you are still learning, you should pick what is most exciting for you that keeps you building more stuff that continually gets more complicated. Keep pushing yourself to build apps that continue to get more complex.

@@MikeMunroe I'm enjoying the next js, till now built many little projects in react, ejs, express. Currently building a similar website like upwork in nextjs, which will have frontend+backend.

@@indimerz awesome. Trying to rebuild other products is a great way to level up because you are forced to build features you may not have tackled before.

Are you trying to build a payment platform from scratch or wrap a 3rd party such as Stripe or PayPal?

From scratch currently, here in Brazil I am about to use a Baas called Celcoin, but I will start with a payment module called PIX, exclusive to Brazil, the payment barrier is lower than a credit card and the fee is very low, around $0.036 for processing the generation of a payment order using the PIX Method. But, I have clients who use Striper in their products, I have already integrated this type of payment, the control is much less than your own payment platform@@MikeMunroe