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Thanks Claire for sharing your journey. I found myself smiling a lot and thinking, yep, yep, that is so similar to what I went through. From the posture to the trigger points, the PRT and many many things in between. I am still experiencing a lot of pain, but know for certain that it is all based in fear. I fear it getting worse and try to get everything done in 6 minutes before the pain hits level 10. Of course, this only serves to bring it on LOL. I am working hard, but not too hard, at breaking this habit. I feel the most important thing I have learned over the past 6 years of chronic pain is not what I do, so much as HOW I do things. It fits in well with the different perceptions as told by Drew in his Pain Habit book. I have a way to go, but I am confident that one day I shall also be pain free. I wish you all the best for your continued recovery. Your story and lovely nature are a blessing to me and I hope to reflect such bravery in my own life. X

I’ve been a hairstylist for 30 years. My right hand has not been functioning right for about a year now. Listening to you has brought me hope I might have a chance at still continuing with my career.

Omg i relate I take everyones prob on ect i put myself and chronic neck pain last

Wow i am bookmarking this!! Ty so much im dealing with years neck pain

This is totally me right now. After the past couple of years dealing with the loss of my parents and now clearing out the house I lived in as a child with all the memories and emotions of loss. I thought I was dealing with it quite well. However my back has recently been playing games with me getting me to slow down and process the past few years. Thank you Drew. Reminding me I need to breathe and take time. This video popped up at exactly the right time. Spooky. 💕

So happy for you amazing. Ya gave me hope and I wii go ahead with getting support to be over this. 🎉

Thank you for your video! I was doing much better but the pain has come back so much worse. It's been a month now... Is that too long for an extinction burst?

Please will heal fibromyalgia? Ty amen 🙏

This is so wonderful to hear and I’m so happy for you. I am familiar with this and I also have Alan Gordon’s book. However there are certain conditions that you cannot use this for to recover from the pain they caused with this method. For example, sleep apnea. Sleep apnea is very complex and it’s a real situation. Once you get tested and you know you have it it’s sometimes very hard to find a solution. You can be completely aware of neuroplasticity, and all of the things you talked about which I am, but sometimes things happen that are real, and they do need surgery or they do need medical attention. That being said, for other things, this is a fantastic way of looking at your self. And I’m so happy for you. That being said, I am going to go back and read Alan Gordon’s book again since I have it :-)

How do we unlearn chronic pain?

Thank you!

Is this EMDR you were doing ?

What about having a bath if there’s a lot of pain - better not to do that?

Genius Drew 🏆 great advice thanks - you should do this for a living! ❤

Great explanation and message 👍

Brilliant. Thanks Drew, will do!

Thank you Drew, you're so spot on.

I began statins 5 years ago after a heart attack and double stenting. My shoulder pain began 1 month ago and have cut the statins to 2 a week, so far not much change after about 10 days, hopeful now.......

If you're in chronic pain, you ARE delivering the gold! Great video.

Basically mind over matter ??

A wonderful conversation between two inspiring coaches in the MindBody field. Lots of wisdom and insight shared here. Thank you both!! 👍

'The dog can feed itself' Cuts to a Jack Russell opening dog food with a tin opener, swearing under its breath. Have started to utilise this technique, its definitely calming!

Love this! Two of my favourite mindbody practitioners in one video!

So great to listen to you both together! Drew was the first person to interview me as a success story after I recovered from 37 years of chronic pain. Tanner was my therapist through my healing journey! Both are amazing individuals ❤

I follow you both separately, so nice to see you come together to talk about this. You've both been really helpful to me throughout my healing journey.

My mum has been suffering from chronic pain for 15 +years. I really hope she can find help and heal like you have. I read the boom The way out by Alan Gordon. I learnt a little bit of somatic tracking with her and it made a significant difference both times. She is currently taking many different supplements. But i hope to see her find a way through

This was brilliant. Its late and I needed to get ready to sleep. I recently came off of a decades long benzodiazepine prescription and need to find healthy ways of managing my stress and anxiousness. After doing this I felt so calm! I will definitely be implementing this into my daily routine. Thank you!

What is the name of the doctor she just found?

Thanks for this. Does this breathing technique rewire our brain over time or is it just relief in the moment?

Me too!! Bullet partially severed Perennial Nerve left leg almost 30 years ago. Fighting with VA HOSPITAL over med dosage again. Tried holistic approach and it failed too. When the pain people overrule primary care and restore my meds I can walk, talk and crawl on my belly (lol) again. I'm in process of suing VA. Opioids worked for me with no signs of addiction.

Works like magic. Incredible. Thank you

Amazing story Claire- thanks for sharing. I’m just starting to really know how much my emotions are driving the symptoms. Triggering the trigger points so to speak! I’m a body worker who has done a lot of work with trigger points on my clients. They should resolve after a number of sessions.(Peggy)

Jesus Said it to paralytics 2000 years ago! You are Safe and Free and Okay! The Pharisee Church had people Bound with so many rules. I am paralytic too because of a church I was told I had to go to and follow All their man made rules. Jesus Saved me too through this ladies testimony. The Fear of God. Thank You 🙏 So Much! 😊❤

I am Safe and Free I am Okay 😇

Great case example! Such a powerful example to the patient to think beyond the physical realm only.

Enjoyed the listen. Diagnosed with CRPS recently after an ankle fracture summer 2023. Apparently all healed but pain continues and into the uninjured foot. Do these books share specifics on brain retraining?

Yep. After 15yrs everyone left, Dctors have no idea. Going back to physio, pain Does Not like it at All. A simple twist or slip will lay me out at least for 2 days and Me, I was an Interstate Truck Driver. Go Anywhere, Do Anything at Any time of day to..... Doing very little. Chronic pain, that's the One thing in Life that's really kicked My backside and Kept Me Down. Meditation and Meditation is the only thing that has helped.

Hey Drew, I would love to email or do a zoom with Jane. I have pelvic pain for the last 4 years. I too just started to listen via Audible to Alan Gordons The Way Out. Awesome book. Anyway, please let me know if this is possible. Cheers, Scott

I actually tore two discs in my lower back through heavy lifting at work doing interstate trucking.Had the two discs removed and cages put in but it's only gotten worse as times gone on. I only found this video as it was "15 Years". Very similar story, new house, child on the way but working 16-18 hours a day for that to happen just wrecked all that progress I'd made and i stayed positive for a Good 5-6 years but I still couldn't win a trick. So glad it's worked for so many. Thanks for sharing Mate.

So could this also apply to Rheumatoid Arthritis? 😊

Thank you so much, keep spreading the word Susan, I recognized myself in your story. About you being a perfectionist it can wear you out.Thank you Thank you Thank you❤️

I’m being considered as having CRPS since I fractured my right ankle. I took CBT and that was helpful for depression due to chronic pain from back surgery, endometriosis, 3 knee surgeries, and more. Now finishing the ACT course but it sounds to me like the program Margaret took is more detailed. I have fiery shooting pain & tingling of injured foot and now starting on the good foot. I have constant pain and so when i acknowledge my pain by saying “Oh there u are”…what I can’t understand is I could say “oh there you are” all the time. The pain doesn’t leave ever. I live in Canada and not sure if that program is available here. Can u forward more details about this program? Is there online help? Thank u 🇨🇦 ❤

People who have no problems in life have easy solutions eg pain not based on any physical damage

I think what you've done, and said in this video is really helpful. And I'm so glad you are one who cares enough to see us as a whole organism. I have had CRPS for at least 10 years, but probably earlier. I have Aces score, so you know right away I was born into traumas. I love how you told her to pause and see what it feels like in her body. Unfortunately for me, my body is keeping the score. I want to start trauma therapy right away, as I've never done before. My biggest injury is in my left foot, ankle, leg, knee into hip. I know it's spread over the years. I have narcolepsy, chronic fatigue syndrome after mononucleosis and epstein-barr virus, and IGA deficiency and many other pain syndromes all diagnosed professionally. Also I'm Audhd. So my brain doesn't function normally since birth. So these compounded. I have many pain flair during the day, others that last for weeks to months at a time. I'm frail. Do you have suggestions for me? Can I see you professionally if I'm in the US? Or do you even take on new patients? You understand the pain trauma cyle better than most certified doctors here in the United States. And I would love if you could respond to me, but I understand if you are not able. ❤

When you say "no pathology," do you also mean know degenerative disc problems? Like stuff that everyone most likely deals with for middle-aged deal with. Something Dr's. may think it's no pathology bc people have it with no pain or issues type of bullshit answer? Pardon my French this frustration I have is my own, by my own experiences in tons of pain. Some doctors will dismiss you quickly, and doctors who, won't believe your pain is real bc I'm a woman. And then there are great doctors out there who are incredibly caring and want to help. So, I don't mean to be harsh to you. I'm just wondering if you know the answer to my above question. I know you are great, as you were recommended to me by my sister. We both have CRPS

Great tips. Really. ❤ For pain, Consider trying hydrotherapy, which involves exercising in warm water. The buoyancy reduces stress on joints, and the warmth can soothe arthritis symptoms. Consult with your healthcare provider before starting any new exercise routine, including hydrotherapy, to ensure it aligns with your specific condition.

Hi Drew how about an example where someone is not looking for pain in their arthritic joints but perhaps has pain in one hip but not the other and has been told and possibly believes it may be due to arthritis. Is there an inflammatory aspect that causes pain?

Drew - you'll be interested in an arthritis study done at the University of Texas that the pain PT, Jim Prussack reported. Here’s the link: ua-cam.com/video/_QtKTLzBrqc/v-deo.htmlsi=A-Q0HalRRjKKjRWP I am 100 % sure I will not get a hip replacement as I work through this TMS journey. Took me almost a year to believe that I could. We are taught that arthritis equals pain and the research does not support that. I read a post on a pain coach's channel - a man with chronic hip pain/arthritis tried the TMS approach but ultimately got a hip replacement. All good for two years but then he had a trigger event and all his pain came back!

I love the comment about psychological flexibility and that some people don’t have that ability. I find this in my work as a physio. Some patients really get the idea of mind-body connection and take that on board. Others…no matter how many times they come in for various issues and we go through this concept, it just doesn’t sink in.

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