- 144
- 396 259
Argumentative Indians
India
Приєднався 24 бер 2021
ARGUMENTATIVE INDIANS is a non-partisan educational platform, hosting numerous informative and interactive sessions featuring iconic experts from India and beyond. Our sessions provide you bold ideas, fresh perspectives and actionable insights from renowned thought leaders. Not only this you can join them live and interact face-to-face with celebrated authors, entrepreneurs, artists, academics, policy makers, activists, diplomats, and social influencers.
We help you expand your knowledge, build your network and formulate your own opinions.
Head to our website ArgumentativeIndians.com to know about upcoming sessions and how you can become a part of them.
We help you expand your knowledge, build your network and formulate your own opinions.
Head to our website ArgumentativeIndians.com to know about upcoming sessions and how you can become a part of them.
The Enigma of Saraswati I A Scholar's Perspective @indianhistoryarchaeology
SYNOPSIS:
Described in the oldest texts of the Rigveda, Saraswati surpassed in majesty and might all other rivers. Pure in her course from the mountains to the ocean, she descended with a roar down the slope, her fierce current gurgling through its canyon course, containing ~powerful floods inside her. She was the “perfect mother, unsurpassed river, supreme goddess” (Sindhumata).
She finds repeated mentions in Brahamanas and the Mahabharata, in the Puranas and the Smritis. Saraswati intrigued philosophers and poets for generations.
Over thousands of years, as no such river flowed in the physical form, she assumed an other-worldly or mythical status in the minds of Indians, who continue to venerate her as the goddess of knowledge, learning, wisdom, music and the arts.
For centuries people have believed her to be an invisible river that merges into the holy rivers of Ganga and Yamuna at the Triveni Sangam. Millions of Hindus believe that taking a dip there will wash away their sins and free them from the cycle of rebirth.
There are legends that tell us that Saraswati flows underground. One such legend has it that the beautiful goddess Saraswati sprung from the forehead of her father Brahma, the god of creation. It is said that as soon as Brahma looked at her beauty, he was filled with desire for her. Unhappy with the amorous attentions he bestowed upon her, she tried to dodge and hide. This is why the river Saraswati flows underground.
However these #myths and #legends are not sufficient to satiate the curiosity of modern Indians. Since the 20th century, numerous searches have been undertaken for the lost physical river.
Why does a river not seen for thousands of years evoke so much interest? Because according to many in resolving the mystery of #saraswati is the key to understanding our beginning, as a people, as a #culture and as a #civilisation .
While the mystery still endures, in recent years major breakthroughs have significantly expanded our knowledge about #saraswati - These include satellite imagery of ancient river channels, population genetic studies and #archeological discoveries.
So what do we know now? And how to make sense of it?
To address this we are joined by renowned scholar Dr. Lajwanti Shahani, an archaeologist specialising in Harappan and Mesopotamian cultures.
SPEAKER: @indianhistoryarchaeology
Dr. Lajwanti Shahani, an archaeologist with a PhD (from Deccan College,
Pune) in Harappan sea trade of 5000 years ago with another ancient civilization Mesopotamia, and two local cultures of the Persian Gulf region called Dilmun (Bahrain and Qatar), and Magan (Oman Peninsula).
For her fieldwork, she have travelled across Gujarat and Kutch in India, plus the UAE and Oman in the Oman Peninsula identifying markers, and artefacts, of the trade connect:
Apart from her PhD thesis and Master’s dissertation, she has a number of published papers, presented at various conferences on archaeology and marine archaeology, both national and international.
Link to her channel: Indian History & Archeology -
EXPLORE MORE:
Find out about upcoming sessions and learn how you can join them live and become a part of the conversation - www.argumentativeindians.com
DISCLAIMER:
We invite thought leaders from across the ideological spectrum. The guests in our sessions express their independent views and opinions. Argumentative Indians do not profess to subscribe, agree or endorse the same or be in any way responsible for the stance, words, and comments of our guests.
Music
Described in the oldest texts of the Rigveda, Saraswati surpassed in majesty and might all other rivers. Pure in her course from the mountains to the ocean, she descended with a roar down the slope, her fierce current gurgling through its canyon course, containing ~powerful floods inside her. She was the “perfect mother, unsurpassed river, supreme goddess” (Sindhumata).
She finds repeated mentions in Brahamanas and the Mahabharata, in the Puranas and the Smritis. Saraswati intrigued philosophers and poets for generations.
Over thousands of years, as no such river flowed in the physical form, she assumed an other-worldly or mythical status in the minds of Indians, who continue to venerate her as the goddess of knowledge, learning, wisdom, music and the arts.
For centuries people have believed her to be an invisible river that merges into the holy rivers of Ganga and Yamuna at the Triveni Sangam. Millions of Hindus believe that taking a dip there will wash away their sins and free them from the cycle of rebirth.
There are legends that tell us that Saraswati flows underground. One such legend has it that the beautiful goddess Saraswati sprung from the forehead of her father Brahma, the god of creation. It is said that as soon as Brahma looked at her beauty, he was filled with desire for her. Unhappy with the amorous attentions he bestowed upon her, she tried to dodge and hide. This is why the river Saraswati flows underground.
However these #myths and #legends are not sufficient to satiate the curiosity of modern Indians. Since the 20th century, numerous searches have been undertaken for the lost physical river.
Why does a river not seen for thousands of years evoke so much interest? Because according to many in resolving the mystery of #saraswati is the key to understanding our beginning, as a people, as a #culture and as a #civilisation .
While the mystery still endures, in recent years major breakthroughs have significantly expanded our knowledge about #saraswati - These include satellite imagery of ancient river channels, population genetic studies and #archeological discoveries.
So what do we know now? And how to make sense of it?
To address this we are joined by renowned scholar Dr. Lajwanti Shahani, an archaeologist specialising in Harappan and Mesopotamian cultures.
SPEAKER: @indianhistoryarchaeology
Dr. Lajwanti Shahani, an archaeologist with a PhD (from Deccan College,
Pune) in Harappan sea trade of 5000 years ago with another ancient civilization Mesopotamia, and two local cultures of the Persian Gulf region called Dilmun (Bahrain and Qatar), and Magan (Oman Peninsula).
For her fieldwork, she have travelled across Gujarat and Kutch in India, plus the UAE and Oman in the Oman Peninsula identifying markers, and artefacts, of the trade connect:
Apart from her PhD thesis and Master’s dissertation, she has a number of published papers, presented at various conferences on archaeology and marine archaeology, both national and international.
Link to her channel: Indian History & Archeology -
EXPLORE MORE:
Find out about upcoming sessions and learn how you can join them live and become a part of the conversation - www.argumentativeindians.com
DISCLAIMER:
We invite thought leaders from across the ideological spectrum. The guests in our sessions express their independent views and opinions. Argumentative Indians do not profess to subscribe, agree or endorse the same or be in any way responsible for the stance, words, and comments of our guests.
Music
Переглядів: 1 790
Відео
History of Sufism In India I Moin Mir
Переглядів 2 тис.Рік тому
#sufism in #india is associated with mysticism - from #kashmir to #kanyakumari our land is abound with legends of great fakirs, magical amulets, and sacred dargahs. Far away from the strict tenets of Orthodox Islam, Sufism spread and prospered in India for centuries, operating in a largely spiritual domain. Millions of Indians, regardless of their religious affiliations, still flock to shrines ...
Should Brands Take A Stand on Socio-Political Issues? | Full Debate
Переглядів 3632 роки тому
Should Brands Take A Stand on Socio-Political Issues? | Full Debate
Should India Discard The No-First Use Nuclear Doctrine ? | Full Debate
Переглядів 4 тис.2 роки тому
Should India Discard The No-First Use Nuclear Doctrine ? | Full Debate
Bhakti Movement : Revolution, Reformation & Revival? | Prof. Karen Pechilis
Переглядів 2,7 тис.2 роки тому
Bhakti Movement : Revolution, Reformation & Revival? | Prof. Karen Pechilis
How Did Bhakti Win Over Tantra ? | Prof. Patton E. Burchett
Переглядів 8 тис.2 роки тому
How Did Bhakti Win Over Tantra ? | Prof. Patton E. Burchett
Is Indian Heritage Better Off In Foreign Museums ?
Переглядів 1332 роки тому
Is Indian Heritage Better Off In Foreign Museums ?
India's Age of Tantra | Prof. Patton E. Burchett
Переглядів 8 тис.2 роки тому
India's Age of Tantra | Prof. Patton E. Burchett
Is Islamophobia Real ? | Prof. Khaled A. Beydoun
Переглядів 2,2 тис.2 роки тому
Is Islamophobia Real ? | Prof. Khaled A. Beydoun
Is India A Future Superpower ? | Documentary
Переглядів 2722 роки тому
Is India A Future Superpower ? | Documentary
Does Art Have A Nationality ? | Aparna Joshi
Переглядів 1532 роки тому
Does Art Have A Nationality ? | Aparna Joshi
Is It Dangerous To Be A Journalist In India ? | Tanushree Pandey
Переглядів 3,6 тис.2 роки тому
Is It Dangerous To Be A Journalist In India ? | Tanushree Pandey
Akbar - Model Statesman For Multicultural India ? | Parvati Sharma
Переглядів 1,5 тис.2 роки тому
Akbar - Model Statesman For Multicultural India ? | Parvati Sharma
Was India’s Partition Inevitable ? | Official Trailer
Переглядів 7052 роки тому
Was India’s Partition Inevitable ? | Official Trailer
Should Indian History Be Rewritten ? | Official Trailer
Переглядів 7 тис.2 роки тому
Should Indian History Be Rewritten ? | Official Trailer
Transformation begins with Dialogue!
Переглядів 11 тис.2 роки тому
Transformation begins with Dialogue!
Sati Pratha - The Practice & The Propaganda | Dr. Meenakshi Jain | Official Trailer
Переглядів 1,9 тис.2 роки тому
Sati Pratha - The Practice & The Propaganda | Dr. Meenakshi Jain | Official Trailer
Netaji's Vision For Free India | Chandrachur Ghose | Official Trailer
Переглядів 1,6 тис.2 роки тому
Netaji's Vision For Free India | Chandrachur Ghose | Official Trailer
Are Indian Women Choosing Not To Work ?
Переглядів 1422 роки тому
Are Indian Women Choosing Not To Work ?
Watch heated debate among all-women panel on criminalisation of #maritalrape in India.
Переглядів 2822 роки тому
Watch heated debate among all-women panel on criminalisation of #maritalrape in India.
Can Academics Afford Political Neutrality? | Dr Ashok Swain | Official Trailer
Переглядів 2 тис.2 роки тому
Can Academics Afford Political Neutrality? | Dr Ashok Swain | Official Trailer
The Islamic Veil - A Debate over Multiculturalism
Переглядів 5042 роки тому
The Islamic Veil - A Debate over Multiculturalism
Should independent India honour the soldiers of British Indian Army? | Official Trailer
Переглядів 6 тис.2 роки тому
Should independent India honour the soldiers of British Indian Army? | Official Trailer
Should independent India honour the soldiers of British Indian Army? | Live Debate
Переглядів 1,1 тис.2 роки тому
Should independent India honour the soldiers of British Indian Army? | Live Debate
Is India Becoming Less Federal? | Live Debate
Переглядів 3712 роки тому
Is India Becoming Less Federal? | Live Debate
Does India need more Federalism or less? - Live Debate
Переглядів 3,1 тис.2 роки тому
Does India need more Federalism or less? - Live Debate
Why do so many people fall for conspiracy theories? | Dr Cailin O'Connor
Переглядів 3702 роки тому
Why do so many people fall for conspiracy theories? | Dr Cailin O'Connor
Devi ji aap ek bar dasi prtha pe bhi ek book likhe
lost too much time at the begining and ur voice so bad...overacting actor
waisting time anchor
In full disclosure she didn't say one word on forced sati. And condemned those incidents
@@amth3400 forced sati was again very very rare When someone consider it very wrong they may not feel the necessity to tell i is wrong I don't have to say the atrocities committed by ISIS, Al Qaeda etc is wrong if I were to give talk about problem of terrorism does that prove anything? Because I know everyone including most muslims consider it wrong so there is no need to mention all the kinds of barbaric practices committed by these terrorist gangs and say it is wrong unless the topic og discussion is specifically about those atrocities Because everyone know it wrong! You don't have to mention everything from a topic and give your judgement as it's not a compulsion but that doesn't mean you support the things that you didn't mention or condemn
Shr praised raja Kanth dev for saying to British to don't interfere in hindu customs. But she advocate for this bjo government in muslim religious practices
So there is a concept of sati but its women's choice. So why she said it's rare practice. And yet she in this video give many proofs 😂😂
It's not "many" proofs compared to number of cases in hindu texts where ladies who didn't commit the number of ladies who did it is far lesser but I can understand people like you are stupid who twist everything The ratio was 1:400+ from the documented period
The point is in hindu texts compared to the number of instances where ladies didn't commit sati the instances where ladies committed themselves to that horrible practice is very less that you can point it out so it's not "many" proofs as you try twist it shamelessly
Now only I realised that you are mulla
She dishonesty ignore that mughal kingd like akbar aurangzeb banned sati at a gradual level ..
True but you guys don't even mention that it was abolished in Peshwa dominions before British abolition
@@themaskedman5954 am not historian she is ... She was the one should tell that if that is true. She again didn't tell that.
@@amth3400 yup she has to tell all the things I am saying or else it can't be acceptable 🤡 Crown! She also said about Tajore marathas so what about that Stupid!
Europe agree that wich burnt was Europe's dark age . But u people don't agree sati was ours dark age practice
@@amth3400 bla bla bla
Nobody is praising it even many hindu scholars and saints were opposing it for years so stop the nonsense and sit down
@@themaskedman5954 read puranas it did praised it. If a woman commit sati she can be in Swarg as many years as numbers of hair in our body means countless numbers of years.
@@amth3400 hey stupid do you any mental issues? You definitely have a problem with comprehension skill You were talking about present day Indians when you said "U people do agree sati was ours dark age practice" right? So I said "nobody is praising it" I was specifically referring to present day So why are you going back to "puranas" This is the fraudulent nature of people like you. You guys try to shame hindu without any basis if challenged you guys will chage goalposts Utterly shameless! So you should prove me that majority of hindus are okey with it that they don't think it is bad as you are the one who said Go to randoms person and ask most of them will say it is wrong You changed goalpost stil let me address your stupid argument Number of ladles who commit sati is far less than ladies didn't commit sati if you add up all puranic stories so "praising" doesn't make a difference as it is statistically negligible And more importantly Veda samhitas, brahmanas, etc which are considered shruti didn't say a word about sati more importantly Brahmanas prohibit "sucide" Medieval hindu scholars used this to prove sati is non vedic
@@amth3400 don't chage goalposts
In Mahabharata Krishna's four wife's commited sati. She didn't tell that.
You started with gupta kingdom but skipped the maurya kingdom
“The Great Replacement” is not originally American. The term was coined by Renaud Camus, a French writer, who gave his book (on the ethnic replacement of French people by Africans and Asians), that title. In many European cities, we are all watching it happen, with our own eyes, in utter disbelief. Of course, statistics prove it too. Europeans are too afraid to speak openly about it though for fear of being called racist, and thus losing their jobs, and now even going to prison, like they did in the U.K. recently for Facebook posts. The indigenous populations of Europe are already minorities in many of their own cities. London is only 1/3 ethnic British). In Ireland, 20% of the population wasn’t born in Ireland. Twenty years ago Ireland was nearly 100% ethnic Irish. The same has happened in Germany, Sweden, and of course, the U.K. was one of the first to start this process. Ethnic replacement in Europe is a fact and everyone in Europe either knows it and doesn’t care, or they are steaming angry and feel ready for war. Most are in the latter camp. I wonder how Indians would feel if they saw themselves becoming a minority in India!!! Africans, Indians, Chinese, Japanese - none would ever accept to become minorities in their own countries. Why should Europeans accept this???
It’s not to replace the US population. Ethnic replacement is happening all over the west - including the destruction of the indigenous peoples of Europe. I wonder how Indians would like to be a minority in India!!!
As for Lt Gen Ata Hasnain's claims about disaster management, the 2024 Wayanad flood claimed almost 400 lives, another 150 went missing (presumed dead). So, in reality, we're not there yet. We can't absorb a monsoon strike with readiness. How can we absorb a nuclear strike?
Harappan writing system decoding can r'eveal real heritage: see Dr Gupta Harappan code 2024
Karnad is practical and realistic, while Rajagopalan is pessimistic and underachieving, downright timid, like we're ready to accept losses, get defeated again, like 1962. Since India is a huge country, as per Rajagopalan, we should sacrifice a portion of our country and somehow continue to exist. All the bureaucrats of India are like that. It's pretty demoralising.
Bronze age APOCALYPSE 2000 BCE caused floods, draught, VITRIFICATION, Saraswati change of course and flow reverse.
I would like to know how you will explain the great differences in time geography and outside influences
The composition of the latter hymns indicates a cultural upheaval probably leading to the caste system
The language of the hymns could have been of many origins the vedas contain even today words from many languages and regions
The mass of the hymns were composed after visvamitra s time probably in many parts of North India
The earlier hymns cannot be attributed to any historical ryshe and therefore they are attributed to mythical characters and
His date is tentatively around 167o b c e
One thing is certain that the composition of the vedic hymns can be attributed to the great visvamitra and his sons
HERE FOR THE LADY OF MYLAPORE ❤❤❤
The interviewer is under prepared. He is simply reading from the screen.
The interviewer is jerk 😂
How in the world did this video accomplish the goal of "dispelling mysteries around Tantra" ?? The professor giving the presentation admitted is isn't very well versed in Tantric literature and it's evident.
Dr Jain is a very good scholar 😊!!
Yajur is quite the character - he comes off as an irritating idealist and a bit dogmatic. He even contradicts himself a few times, which is quite interesting. It seems like he's been heavily influenced by Nehruvian secularism. On a different note, I'm a big fan of Abhijit, but I have to say, the host is not exactly my cup of tea.
Yajur you are not letting ma'am finish all the time
51:43 I'm not quite sure it shifts anything. If I wanted to start my own local community hospital to help people with small medical problems I would not be able to do that. That's not really based on free principles that much. The US government already has in place rules and programs which force the current system where doctors make $200k per year. The point is that it already has taken a much more integrated approach.
Your view does not hold water where farming and when it comes in, it was already there before Harappa, everything began when ATOM was first discovered now SEEk who discovered and which Clan stole it for their advantage..... then answer to civilisations can be easily extracted with available existing worldwide texts, who destroyed whom for survival and still not ashamed of championing copied texts for Authoriaion Rule with biased claim.
Thanks a bunch Yajur for organising this fantastic talk. This channel provides brilliant content.
Hahahahaha. The Arya migrated as whole communities in horse driven chariots, bull driven wagons etc. Even females came, even children came. Watch bharat ek khoj serial of rhe 80s. This theory of invading men came and married(or r*ped) the native women totally wrong. Rig veda is predominantly an Arya philosophy. In a language that is ancestral to Sanskrit. If there had been simple marriage between Arya men and non Arya women, children would have spoken "mother" tounge that was proto tamizh? Why will they speak father tounge of Indo Iranian language or vedic language and just bring in the retroflex consonants into the vedic language? Nonsensical to say the least.
I think only history students can understand Irfan Habib others are not able
ہندوستان آ ج۔ تک چین ہندوستان جنگ 1962 کے خوف سے باہر نہیں نکل سکا ۔ ہندوستان کی فوج میں ایک بھی ایسا نوجوان نہیں جو بھارت ماتا کی خاطر چین سے آ یندہ جنگ میں اپنی جان دینے کی۔لے تیار ہو ۔ مودی جی اور جے شنکر بھی چین فوبیا کے خوف میں گرفتار ہیں ۔ میرا اپنا خیال ہے کہ ہندوستان ایک عرصہ تک اس خوف ہیں گرفتار رہے گا ۔ ہاں تمام ہندوستانی بھارت کے لے جان دینے کو تیار ہو جایں تو الگ بات ہیں ۔ ہاں ایک بات ہے ۔ ہندوستانی ایسی کانفرنس کر سکتے ہیں ۔ آ پ چین پاکستان کی بات کرتے ہیں ۔ لیکن آ پ روس کے ساتھ ہیں اور یوکرین کے معاملے میں امریکہ کی دشمنی مول۔لے ہوے ہیں ۔ یاد رہے کہ پاکستان ہندوستان جنگ میں ایف 16 ہندوستان کے لے کافی ہے ۔ Carry on such filthy discussion. Which are only for media political relationship with different highly served fellows .
The congress guy was really a pain to listen to. You shouldn't have called him
Keep arguing. The world has moved on but what is Taylor Swift still doing? 😂
Several questions are raised:- 1. Why is there a difference between North and South India? 2. Why are burials instead of cremations, found at all the Indus Valley sites in Pakistan as well as other sites all overr India right from Udhampur in J&K to Gujarat, UP, Daimabad, Inamgaon, Keezhadi in Tamil Nadu as well as several other places in India ? 3. Why was Tamil found to be the lingua franca at the IVC sites? 4. Why is the caste system found amongst the Hindus?
Sir, according to muslim historians only moghuls can be great,rest are tit bits.
Come on please. This is the very epitome of the brown sahib still lingering in academia. Both the theories set-up in the premise has been thoroughly shown to be lacking rigour. Dr Shinde (on the genetics) and Shrikant Talegeri on Linguistics have done phenomenal work! The migration was Out of Bharat after the Battle of the Ten Kings not into. And no Arya is not an ethnic group/people! The migration has a clear direction in they way the scripts are written right to left denotes the westwards migration. A host of multi disciplinary experts Dr Raj Vedam, Nilesh Oak etc have also shown the same!
The number of views is off the charts
Yes very much relations respecting each other dream not one-sided as desire by china.
People of the country who wants cheap products and want to save money but not own country call india people are indirectly helping china by giving jobs defence strenghth and also matadi and chinas help to pakistan when indians will woken up is big question??????.are Indians are waiting for chinas encroachment of indias territory??????!!!!!!! Seems yes .
China always taking favoure and we are giving but not getting favoure inreturn it shows our govt weakness and lack of guts .
Yes india must withdraw support one china policy Tibet must be aknowedege as separate country but it need guts from present govt and it's supremo which he is lacking .
Rakhigiri specimen shed some light on out of india theory and also sinauli chariot tell us the same story . Most probably it was an out of india theory . India brought civilization to the west .. now they are teaching us newsest technologies for better civilizations.
This man, Churchill, EVIL . A scholarly study found that British colonialism resulted in approximately 165 million deaths in India from 1880 to 1920 while stealing at least $45 trillion in wealth from the country. Tens of millions more Indians died in human-made famines that were caused by the British Empire. The impact of British colonial policies during this period was devastating, with excess deaths far surpassing those caused by famines in the Soviet Union, Maoist China, and North Korea combined. This tragic chapter in history underscores the immense human cost of empire-building and exploitation.
Bhuvan Sir is one the most amazing personality! I am totally inspired by him and a huge fan of his work! Love you Bhuvan Sir
One is sun kissed, other is chandini. Damn deep thought. 😮