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Subinats 2023 - MCA Suspension
Having our trade stand at SubiNats this year was a blast! We found some time to film a few of our favourite cars in the show and shine this year. If you spot your mates or their cars make sure to tag them in the comments!
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GR86 On Track Engine Failure
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It looks like we achieved too much corner grip last Thursday at Queensland Raceway. Whilst testing our MCA Circuit Spec Reds with Advan A050 soft compound tyres, we were rewarded with a nice hole in the block and lots of smoke and fire out the exhaust early on in the day. We towed the car to The 86 Shop to have a new engine installed, but we won’t know a definitive cause of the issue until the ...
MCA Suspension test day with Matt Mingay & Kent Dalton
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We spent a day at Queensland Raceway with Hot Wheels drivers Matt Mingay & Kent Dalton for the purpose of helping tune both their suspension setups in preparation for the Drifting Competition at World Time Attack Challenge in April. Both Matt’s Camaro and Kent’s Commodore are running MCA Red Series Suspension and with a few simple adjustments both Matt and Kent were stoked with the progress mad...
MCA Suspension - GR Yaris - VS - Twin Turbo V6 GT86 Time Attack Car.
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In-car footage comparison of our Time Attack GT86 & GR Yaris fastest laps driven by our Director Josh Coote at Lakeside Park International Raceway. GR Yaris - Stock car with MCA Reds Suspension, Semi slicks, Circo Brake Pads, Advan AO50 Tyres and Koya Semi-forged Wheels. (59.45 lap time) GT86 - Twin Turbo VR38, MCA Reds, MCA 86 Traction Mod, Lots of Aero Lots more. (49.10 lap time) www.mcasuspe...
R35 GTR MCA Suspension [4k]
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MCA Reds with a tailored performance setup now installed on this GTR. We are stoked with the results.🎉 We’ve assembled a number of GTR sets over the years and should have them ready for full production soon.👀😎 www.mcasuspension.com
Custom LS Chevy C10 on VE Chassis - Suspension Set Up & Install - [4k]
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MCA Suspension tailored, adjustable suspension install and set up on the Repco C10 which is a C10 Body fabricated to a VE Commodore chassis. In this video, we show the process of hand assembling our MCA Reds from start to finish and installing them in this one of a kind C10 / VE Commodore combo. We are an Australian business and ship worldwide, If you are in need of a tailored suspension setup ...
MCA Suspension GR Yaris Fastest Lap at Lakeside Park. (POV) - 4K
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Take a ride with our Director Josh Coote in the MCA Suspension GR Yaris during our fastest lap at Lakeside (POV GoPro). We went back for our second track day at Lakeside in our GR Yaris and achieved a 0:59.45 lap! Not bad for a stock car with tyres, brake pads and shocks. We were consistently around 1 second faster than our previous attempt thanks purely to the improved valving in our MCA Red s...
MCA Suspension Workshop Time lapse Video, Building a set of Pro Sport adjustable suspension.
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Start to finish! Check out this time-lapse of an MCA Pro Sport as it makes its way through our workshop from assembly to dispatch. www.mcasuspension.com
Japnats 2021 with MCA Suspension.
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A short behind the scenes video of Japnats 2021 with MCA Suspension. If you would like to see more behind the scenes videos drop a comment below and let us know. Find us on Instagram mcasuspension www.mcasuspension.com
Fastest GR Yaris at Japnats, MCA Suspension.
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Our first test day with the MCA Reds on the GR Yaris over the weekend at Japnats and already the fastest GR Yaris at Queensland Raceway with 1:02:52 on the Clubman circuit and 0:59:60 on the sprint circuit. The Yaris is now back at MCA getting more adjustments to the suspension and we will be back out testing again soon. MCA Reds are available soon for the GR Yaris. This is a factory Yaris with...
World Time Attack Challenge 2019 with MCA Suspension
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Join MCA Suspension for a tour of World Time Attacke Challenge 2019 including in-car footage of Andre Heimgartner in the MCA Hammhead
SA Time Attack 2019 with MCA Suspension
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Join us for a brief tour around the 2019 SA Time Attack at Tailem Bend.
D1NZ Championship round at Pukekohe Raceway
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Join SVG as he goes up against NZ's best in the final round of D1NZ at Pukekohe Raceway
Subinats 2019 with MCA Suspension
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Join MCA Suspension for a walk around Subinats 2019 at Phillip Island
SA Time Attack 2018
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SA Time Attack 2018
Subinats 2018 with MCA Suspension
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Subinats 2018 with MCA Suspension
MCA Suspension is coming to D1NZ!
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MCA Suspension is coming to D1NZ!
MCA Suspension SA Time Attack 2017
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MCA Suspension SA Time Attack 2017
World Time Attack Challenge 2017 with MCA Suspension
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World Time Attack Challenge 2017 with MCA Suspension
MCA Suspension at Phillip Island for Subinats 2017
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MCA Suspension at Phillip Island for Subinats 2017
MCA Reds Assembly Timelapse
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MCA Reds Assembly Timelapse
A lap at Lakeside Park with the MCA Suspension 86
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A lap at Lakeside Park with the MCA Suspension 86
The truth about Suspension
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The truth about Suspension
Something big is coming!
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Something big is coming!
MCA suspension VQ37 powered Toyota 86 Time Attack car
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MCA suspension VQ37 powered Toyota 86 Time Attack car
MCA Suspension at Lakeside
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MCA Suspension at Lakeside
MCA Real Nuts - Assembly and Installation
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MCA Real Nuts - Assembly and Installation
MCA Traction Mod - User review and Installation
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MCA Traction Mod - User review and Installation
WTAC 2016 Walk around and highlights
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WTAC 2016 Walk around and highlights
A Story of MCA WTAC 2016
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A Story of MCA WTAC 2016

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  • @gunterification
    @gunterification Місяць тому

    Dat toyota reliability

  • @richurro20
    @richurro20 3 місяці тому

    its the notorious subaru boxer engine. what do you expect.

  • @BrandonLeeActual
    @BrandonLeeActual 3 місяці тому

    it's what makes a subaru a subaru!

  • @crice1uk
    @crice1uk 4 місяці тому

    Bullshit. Base height adjustment does not affect bump travel if you're not hitting the chassis. The amount of preload will affect the sag and thus how much compression stroke you have available from static height. Too much preload (to achieve desired ride height) means not enough droop travel.

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 4 місяці тому

      In reply to the first part of your statement, I think what you’re trying to say is that it’s ok to use base height adjustment as long as there are no major contact issues? Whilst it could be argued that this is true if there are no safety concerns, the fact is that most people will not know if the shocks are currently setup in a way that could potentially cause these safety concerns, because it wasn’t setup correctly by the manufacturer in the first place. The other potential issue is who is to say the amount of bump travel you have is enough? One issue is too much travel, but a separate issue is not enough to function/perform properly. It’s about having the correct amount of bump travel, which in most cases is as much as possible before any contact issues. Even in cases where there is room for more bump travel than will be practically used or be able to be used, it’s still good to know this and know that your suspension is still setup appropriately. One of the major issues with base height adjustment is the lack of knowledge as to how it’s actually setup and what’s really happening and able to happen. In reply to the second part of your statement which is primarily about the potential for insufficient droop travel, yes it’s possible that if you raise the vehicle too much by the spring seat it could result in insufficient droop travel. However, this is only possible if the amount of droop travel is ignored by both the designer/manufacturer as well as the installer. When we design our suspension products we build them in a way that provides sufficient droop within a large range of height adjustment. Having more droop is no problem so for lower ride heights it will have more than it needs, but at higher ride heights it will still have enough. On our install instructions, we also specify a certain amount of droop as being a minimum required amount. If the customer requires a ride height that will mean this minimum droop is not achievable, then it tells the installer to use the spring seat until the minimum droop is achieved and then do the rest using the bottom mount. However, this is not a normal situation for installers of our products to find themselves in as we design our shocks to be able to achieve factory ride height or close to factory ride height without the need for bottom mount adjustment. The reasons that it’s ok for the bottom mount to be used in this scenario is because a) the amount of bump travel is known to be plentiful and more than enough for the desired application and b) the amount of bump travel is known to not be too much and so no contact issues can arise. My answers are based around normal passenger vehicles such as sedans, coupes, wagons, etc. Not 4x4 utes or offroad vehicles. Whilst the principles are essentially no different, some of my comments that relate to our products might differ if we were referring to offroad vehicles, such as instead of aiming for factory ride heights as an upper limit, we’d be designing them for a certain amount of lift.

  • @porkypig2700
    @porkypig2700 4 місяці тому

    Even had the air-conditioning cranked up.. lol

  • @hassyg4083
    @hassyg4083 4 місяці тому

    nothing new the boxer engines always failed from Subaru , the Germans dont use that crap design for a reason

    • @kileysean
      @kileysean 28 днів тому

      Yeah, the day German manufacturers, especially in the Stuttgart area, begin dabbling with flat engines, that spells the end of the vaunted engineering. /s The horizontally opposed cylinder design is old and mastered by the Germans. Subaru is just so bad at engine designing over the years that I don’t get how they get away with it.

  • @RAY_FILET
    @RAY_FILET 5 місяців тому

    Why do people just keep driving?

  • @remissiveslave
    @remissiveslave 8 місяців тому

    Oh no,guess he didn't change his oil every 500 miles and baby it the whole time of owning it.

  • @aleksanderp.4373
    @aleksanderp.4373 9 місяців тому

    "DANGER TO MANIFOLD!!!" had me in stitches :D:D

  • @datnippadaz
    @datnippadaz 10 місяців тому

    If you guys set up a network around Australia where you partner with suspension shops to give customers a more in depth customer service experience especially when it comes to spring choice and set up, I don’t see why over time, MCA wouldn’t become a real aftermarket suspension powerhouse. The only thing holding MCA back is the disconnect between MCA the company and the end user. That’s my 2 cents👍with love.

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 9 місяців тому

      We have suspension workshops all over Australia that sell and install our suspension. Most commonly though, people can contact us directly for support and advice. There shouldn't be any disconnect at all between us and the end user as we are easily contactable and always happy to help.

    • @datnippadaz
      @datnippadaz 9 місяців тому

      @@mcasuspension3976 your absolutely right in that there should be no disconnect between customers and MCA. I’ve actually got MCA coil overs in my car right now and love them, I’ve been into cars my whole life so I know what to do and where to go for coil overs. But i know people who have bought MCA coil overs and end up being disappointed only to find out that they purchased it from a online store without considering spring choice or anything else and than had it fitted by a work shop who doesn’t specialise in suspension work. To me this is crazy, but that’s only because I know better now that I’m a lot older. I just think there should more done to prevent these incidents from happening because more often than not, they’ll end up spreading the news on how MCA coil overs are rubbish. I’ve got nothing but good things to say about MCA suspension, my experience has been overwhelmingly positive but that’s only because I know people who can set up coil overs properly in their workshop. I hope you take this as positive feedback because I’ve got nothing but good intentions by writing this. Anyway, love MCA coilovers, have them on my car right now, just thought I’d give you a little feedback.

  • @Blight-fp3vt
    @Blight-fp3vt 10 місяців тому

    Did you tear it all down? And if so what have you found?

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 9 місяців тому

      There was no clear indication of exactly what caused it so we can't say for certain what it was.

    • @Blight-fp3vt
      @Blight-fp3vt 9 місяців тому

      @@mcasuspension3976 did you give it to Toyota to check out? New model and all, engine failure is something that they are keen to look at, even if it was on track.

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 9 місяців тому

      @@Blight-fp3vt no we didn't we just had a new engine put in at The 86 Shop. Since it wouldn't be under warranty we didn't contact Toyota.

    • @Blight-fp3vt
      @Blight-fp3vt 9 місяців тому

      @@mcasuspension3976 no worries. I guess they might ask to charge for the teardown, but to never know if they just want them to look at.

    • @SidewaysGts
      @SidewaysGts 5 місяців тому

      @@mcasuspension3976 Accusump time

  • @raditiosatwoko7064
    @raditiosatwoko7064 10 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot MCA, we support 2 cars in rally gravel and always make podium with your suspension product..🙏🏻

  • @Maxtopic69
    @Maxtopic69 10 місяців тому

    Toyota and Subaru know they have a massive problem. The tactics they’ve used to try and discredit to void warranties is an example of how big this issue really is.

  • @NathanE808
    @NathanE808 Рік тому

    Damn, was planning to get myself a new 86/Brz to whip around QR like this...i think not now

  • @jonasbaine3538
    @jonasbaine3538 Рік тому

    what is the solution to this oil starvation problem? besides toyota doing a recall....

    • @sl0907
      @sl0907 Місяць тому

      Currently there's accusumps which will deliver pressurized oil once it detects a pressure drop. Otherwise the aftermarket is still working on a baffled and extended capacity oil pan.

    • @jimihendrix8535
      @jimihendrix8535 4 дні тому

      @@sl0907 Unfortunately that does not fix the RTV issue.

    • @jimihendrix8535
      @jimihendrix8535 4 дні тому

      There isn't one other than completely disassembling the engine and correctly replacing the RTV as step 1. Most cars are not failing from the lack of baffle issue (other than possible tracked cars).

  • @Nucleus281
    @Nucleus281 Рік тому

    Too common this is, Toyota lied they did.

    • @RAY_FILET
      @RAY_FILET 5 місяців тому

      To-Yoda

    • @jimihendrix8535
      @jimihendrix8535 4 дні тому

      It's a Subaru with a Toyota name on it. Subaru engine-- not Toyota

  • @user-qd4dk2il1b
    @user-qd4dk2il1b Рік тому

    Can u make a video i dont have to watch I want to listen in the back round 😅

  • @daeilkim4941
    @daeilkim4941 Рік тому

    Is it RTV's issue?

    • @aprettyboringguy8963
      @aprettyboringguy8963 Рік тому

      Most likely oil starvation from high G corners. There seem to be some problems with the oil system keeping pressure in right hand turns.

    • @geovannibobadilla8232
      @geovannibobadilla8232 Рік тому

      No

    • @Zaratium
      @Zaratium 10 місяців тому

      could definitely contribute to it. anything getting sucked in / blocking the flow of oil would naturally damage the engine

  • @sunburst8810
    @sunburst8810 Рік тому

    Toyota didn't test this car for even one day lol

  • @artblackwood7936
    @artblackwood7936 Рік тому

    There is clearly a design flaw in the oil holding/delivery system.

    • @michaeljohn1160
      @michaeljohn1160 Місяць тому

      Might be. But with no (zero) data available, can’t say for certain. now can we? What oil used? What are engine temps? Any engine mods? Surprised they can’t figure out the issue with a simple engine breakdown. Almost like it was human error?

    • @artblackwood7936
      @artblackwood7936 Місяць тому

      @@michaeljohn1160 It's been a while since I thought about this. But it has bee proven without a doubt that the oil capacity for the stock system is not enough for racing. The large and sudden oil pressure drops is air.

    • @jimihendrix8535
      @jimihendrix8535 4 дні тому

      It is both a design flaw and a production flaw. The engine failures are happening to plenty of cars that have never seen the track and have the correct amount of oil. And it is not rare. It is actually just a matter of time. You cannot build a motor with RTV floating around in the engine and pieces of it breaking off from the globs of it protruding out of the gasket surface into the engine and not have it eventually clog oil passageways. And the RTV is not just from the oil pan. It is used on the extra large timing chain cover and lots of other places that are on the other side of the oil pickup tube and thus the oil pickup tube cannot stop it from going into other parts of the engine. Plus, the oil pickup tube cannot stop small pieces from being sucked up into the oiling system from the oil pan (those screens only stop larger pieces which eventually get broken down into smaller and smaller pieces over time and miles). I would love to buy one of these cars, but I am not going to do it if they do not fix this problem. Scrap the robot that is putting the RTV on the gasket surfaces and go watch how other car manufacturers do it and copy them. Easy peasy.

    • @artblackwood7936
      @artblackwood7936 3 дні тому

      @@jimihendrix8535 There are exactly ZERO cases of RTV failure. Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. I am mildly concerned about RTV and will eventually drop the pan and clean it out. The entire issue is gravity with a flat engine, and high rpm right turns. I use my car as a daily driver, have a oil pressure gauge. After 50,000 miles trust me, there is NO issue in normal driving. If you race, you need either a larger oil pan or a system to add oil when needed. If you do high rpm donuts, you are going to blow it up. Don't do high rpm donuts or racing without a larger oil pan.

    • @jimihendrix8535
      @jimihendrix8535 3 дні тому

      @@artblackwood7936 You are dead wrong. Most of the cases are RTV issues because they are not track related (engines blowing up driving down the road that have nothing to do with high g forces, etc.). It's great that you are not concerned, but that has nothing to do with the facts. Good luck with it. I actually think you are worried and just lying to yourself, but good luck with that. LOL

  • @kidomark3819
    @kidomark3819 Рік тому

    I did a 60.74 on Clubman with your MCA Reds, stock car and shitty 235 Nankang AR1’s Very happy with the suspension though!

  • @rezz5570
    @rezz5570 2 роки тому

    Lexus front xD

  • @ionmoir9643
    @ionmoir9643 2 роки тому

    Murray Coote never looks to age

  • @ionmoir9643
    @ionmoir9643 2 роки тому

    Murray you look the same as you did 30 years ago

  • @faizalozo
    @faizalozo 2 роки тому

    As i would understand this, then ride height adjustment is very limited

  • @paulmavric887
    @paulmavric887 3 роки тому

    Love it👍

  • @diyman25
    @diyman25 3 роки тому

    With super grippy tire And proper coilover No LSD required ~

  • @redone8341
    @redone8341 3 роки тому

    It is MY ABSOLUTE DREEEAM to get a set of Golds for my STI!

  • @tomlilong
    @tomlilong 3 роки тому

    Great video. Mind sharing the songs used in this one?

  • @kuki-food
    @kuki-food 3 роки тому

    Great video guys! Great day too! Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @scadieee
    @scadieee 3 роки тому

    Is hammerhead still going strong or are you guys are doing a new chassis ?

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 3 роки тому

      The hammerhead is still going strong, We are currently planning upgrades for WTAC this year. instagram.com/p/COeIZkbMxfJ/

  • @diyman25
    @diyman25 3 роки тому

    Nice rally pack ?

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 3 роки тому

      Just the standard GR Yaris, not the Ralley version.

  • @MrMichaaH
    @MrMichaaH 3 роки тому

    Very nice! What exact grey wrap is that?

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 3 роки тому

      The wrap was done by Exclusive Wraps, they'll know for sure. I can't quite remember the exact wrap used, but it's something like a matte metallic grey from memory.

  • @jasondoulkeridis6202
    @jasondoulkeridis6202 3 роки тому

    WHEN

  • @anthonymoy4471
    @anthonymoy4471 3 роки тому

    We came to hear a car not this music

  • @ryanscanlan9875
    @ryanscanlan9875 4 роки тому

    I bought a Z and was going to get BC but your digressive valve's look pretty good. Would you rate your Street green coilovers over BC BR's?? And why?

  • @rikomanaro
    @rikomanaro 4 роки тому

    Will the spring concept in this video change if the spring was replaced with a longer spring? Thank you

    • @thebigmacd
      @thebigmacd 3 роки тому

      A longer spring with the same diameter and coil pitch will be softer.

    • @randychen5067
      @randychen5067 2 роки тому

      No because the static deflection will be the same (sprung weight acting on the spring) , but if you add helper sprung that will increase your rebound stroke while decreasing your bump stroke , because helper spring fully collapses under weight

  • @99benjohns99
    @99benjohns99 4 роки тому

    Please loose the music and just talk about what is going on.!

    • @mcasuspension3976
      @mcasuspension3976 3 роки тому

      we will keep this in mind for the next video, thank you for the feedback.

    • @99benjohns99
      @99benjohns99 3 роки тому

      @@mcasuspension3976 thanks for considering this

    • @aleksanderp.4373
      @aleksanderp.4373 9 місяців тому

      @@mcasuspension3976 No, it was pure perfection! This is the video that saves us :D

  • @kichaa13
    @kichaa13 4 роки тому

    Erm not entirely true. Increasing preload can raise the ride height of the car and reduce droop, which will have an effect on the ride comfort as well as handling due to a higher cog.

  • @th1_s138
    @th1_s138 4 роки тому

    cool to see how our suspension are made 🤗 can’t wait to receive it !

  • @dhrracer
    @dhrracer 4 роки тому

    The info on preload fails to discuss stored energy. Correct the rate will not change but the amount of stored energy does with a change in the amount of preload.

    • @brendenbanks9293
      @brendenbanks9293 4 роки тому

      I thought the same thing, conceptually, but,"stored energy" has no affect at all on the return rate of the spring. The suspension will droop at exactly the same rate as it compressed, regardless of preload. There will still be "stored energy" in the spring, true, but, that will only come into play when the tire is completely in droop (catches air). When the tire re-makes contact with the ground that preload will make the car effectively stiffer until the initial preload amount has been overcome. Not too sure if there are any handling implications of this. I thought there was but now that I think about it more I don't think it will have any effect. You can prove to yourself the above by plotting an example. Corner weight = 700lb. 700lb/350lb spring = 2" of rebound travel. preload that 350lb spring by 1in. Now you have (700-350)/350 = 1in rebound. You've changed your bump/droop distribution, and the "stored energy" in the spring, but, so long as the tire is on the groudn the spring loads/unloads along the exact same slope (y=mx+B).

  • @ericc1316
    @ericc1316 4 роки тому

    TIME ATTACK is an old event only now people are getting into it? ..LMAO

  • @alyousuf
    @alyousuf 4 роки тому

    The preload argument is completely false, adding preload SHIFTS the spring curve to the left while using a stiffer spring changes the SLOPE of the curve. We raise vehicles and corner balance them using adjustable spring perches by preloading the spring, where else is this additional carrying force coming from. The car gets stiffer proportional to the additional load in the spring, yet the RATE remains the same. I stopped watching after this. www.cycleworld.com/sport-rider/technicalities-spring-rate-and-preload/ Start here.

    • @GCast-iv1pd
      @GCast-iv1pd 4 роки тому

      You are wrong. Corner balancing using spring perches alters the height of the vehicle and therefore moves/distribute the weight to the other springs. That's why it's called "BALANCING". There is no additional carrying force - just simple weight distribution. It is actually mentioned on the link you posted if you bothered reading the whole thing.

    • @alyousuf
      @alyousuf 4 роки тому

      @@GCast-iv1pd im very sorry but you're extremely un informed and lack even the basic understanding of physics. Raising the ride height to corner balance via adding more preload to the spring is the ONLY way to do it - unless you have the luxury of physically moving weights around - The additonal carrying force required to acheive said balance comes from the additional preload applied to the spring, it doesnt just appear from thin air. Im still not sure what the purpose of your reply is.

    • @GCast-iv1pd
      @GCast-iv1pd 4 роки тому

      @@alyousuf Either you are really confused when you wrote your first comment or you really don't know what they are talking about. What it is exactly about the preload section of the video you find confusing? 1. You said "adding preload SHIFTS the spring curve to the left". There is no curve to begin with as we are talking about linear spring. Keyword here is LINEAR...Say you preload the springs to 100kg total equally on all corners. When you put a 80kg weight on top, the springs simply won't move. Think go-karts with no suspensions. You basically muted off the suspension play between 0.1kg - 100kg by preloading/pre-compressing it...It will only start to compress once you put in more than 100kg on top.(See Figure 1 of your link) 2. You said "We raise vehicles and corner balance them using adjustable spring perches by preloading the spring, where else is this additional carrying force coming from". My understanding here is, you implying that as you preload the springs more, the springs gain more carrying force? Okay, this one is pretty basic but I'll explain it anyway. A 10kg/mm linear spring will always compress 1mm for every 10kg weight on top. It will NEVER have more "carrying force", no matter how much preload you put on it. Say that spring has a total compression play of 20mm. You then preload it with 170kg, compressing it by 17mm. If you put 10kg on top, it will still compress 1mm. That is simply PHYSICS and you can not argue with that. Now if you learned your physics lessons from wile E. coyote, then stop reading now as I can not help you anymore. 3. You say, "The car gets stiffer proportional to the additional load in the spring, yet the RATE remains the same." In sensation, maybe...but that doesn't mean the springs are producing more potential energy due to preloading. By preloading the springs (pre-compressing), what you are basically doing is muting the suspension play to the weight differences within the preloaded range, hence giving you the impression that it has become stiff. If say you have preloaded your springs to 900kg total split on all corners... If your car weighs 750kg, in static it won't ever compress the springs at all. Even if you ride in it (I'm assuming you weigh less than 150kg), it won't move at all. Now we could say that the springs are stiff as bricks...But when you add 940kg total weight on top, it will still compress 1mm (40kg total of 4 springs). If 980kg, 2mm... Now you're thinking: "But...we balanced the car using preload?!?"... In a sense, Yes, you are right. You balance a car by adjusting the spring perch. You refer to it as preloading. But it also can be referred to: adjusting the base of the spring. Say you preload all your springs to 30kgs...You then laden the vehicle and notice the front left sitting 2mm lower and rear left sitting 1mm lower. You balance it by preloading the front left to 50kgs and rear left to 40kg. Laden the car again and voila! Now everything is well balanced. (I'm just simplifying here, not accounting for mass shifts) Now by preloading the front-left spring to 50kg, did I give it "additional carrying force"? NO! So what happened? I raised the base of the spring so it basically sits higher. Does that mean the front-left spring is stiffer than the other springs since its preloaded to 50kg? NO! (If I follow your flawed physics, then yes). The reason the front-left is sitting lower is that the vehicle is heavier on that corner, thus compressing the springs more. By raising the base, I have compensated for it (hence the 50kg preload). Now what happens if I add an additional 40kg right in the center? All 4 springs will compress 1mm, evenly. Based on your argument, the left-front will compress less since it is preloaded more thus having more carrying force.

    • @alyousuf
      @alyousuf 4 роки тому

      @@GCast-iv1pd I asked you the first time and will ask you once again, whats the purpose of your comment and you didnt reply. you dont understand this enough to explain it hence the very odd and erratic last reply, which is fine you can learn it. Saying there is no spring curve because is linear is also odd, you can draw an x and y axis and graph a linear spring line on it then add preload to the same graph to understand how it will behave then compare it with a higher rate spring and so on. Adding preload shifts the curve to the left or to the top depending on how you like to visualise it, if you want i can send you images but obviously youtube doesnt allow this. Adding preload makes the suspension stiffer and its not some "feeling" or illusion. Also you seem to think that preloading is making ride heights equal by saying you add more.preload to the corner thats sitting lower, this is FAAR from the truth. I wont be posting anymore. If you wanted to better understand this Ill go on but youre obviously and unnecesarrily fighting your ego here, not sure why.

    • @4bangermafia
      @4bangermafia 3 роки тому

      @@GCast-iv1pd i'm not sure I follow. If you preload the springs to 900lbs then the spring won't compress with 750lbs? Well it depends on the rate of the spring. If the spring rate was 500lbs/in. The preload compressed the spring by like 1.8inch. If you add the 750lbs... since the spring rate requires 500lbs per inc then 750 would compress it by like 1.5 inch. Because now you have a total force of 1650lbs being enacted upon the spring. Which should compress a linear spring by 3.3inch.

  • @jasonbirch1182
    @jasonbirch1182 5 років тому

    So, how do you determine what the proper length of the shock stroke is? I need to put adjustable dampers on my car, I understand setting the shock base height so I'm not bottoming the shock after other contacts. But what about droop? Factory shocks have so much travel. Is it bad to be limiting the droop to a point that the car is at full extension at high g? Is this acceptable to control body roll?

  • @Scrambles2112
    @Scrambles2112 5 років тому

    I hope yall win wtac this year. That s13 is ridonculous

    • @86LAK
      @86LAK 5 років тому

      Oath