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That would have been correct if the first team said it, but the sequence changed when being passed over. [EDIT: nope sorry I'm wrong, see below]

@@Parkouralicous No, in either case the 4th connection would be something representing 0 (if you see this), as in the second round you only ever see the 4th clue if you were incorrect.

@@Jazzy_Josh Ah yes you're right sorry! 5,3,2,0 and 5,3,1,0. Imagine if they got it at 5 or 3 and Victoria didn't get to show the whiteboard! I think the question writers would be fuming. Though she'd likely still just show it I reckon.

Also I can't believe my name on this is still Parkourlacous, I'm almost 30. It's not even spelled right!

Yes when you get to the 3rd clue the second clue becomes wrong. The second should say B if you only see this and the first clue.

Rugby's okay but knowing snooker ball colours/values is fundamental to Only Connect

Each of the things not in brackets are worth a certain number of points. E.g., a Try in rugby is 5 points, a B in scrabble is 3 points, a yellow ball in snooker is 2 points. In Only Connect, if you get the question right after seeing only the first clue you get 5 points. Then 3, then 2. So each of those things not in brackets, corresponds to the number of points you'd get. So (if you only see) Try and get it, it's 5 points, (if you also see) B, it's 3, etc. The whiteboard is because, while the first team was playing for 2 points (a yellow in snooker), the second team was only playing for 1 point (a red in snooker). The final clue is only revealed at the end, once it's guessed or lost. So if you take until the fourth clue, it's a loss.

It's not that bad. "Try" means attempt or 5 points in rugby. Attempt doesn't give you much to go on so assume first clue means five points. You could get it straight away based off only that. Otherwise, second clue comes up and it's B. Is B worth any points? Yes, in Scrabble it's worth 3 points. So we have 5 points, then 3 points. Descending number of points. The tricky thing I suppose is to know that the final clue is "a loss" and not "one point" you need to make the connection to the fact it's talking about the Only Connect scoring system. "If you only see this" is the clue, which isn't obvious but it's not impossible.

thats sort of the point

Welcome to only connect lmao

​@@NyxtiaOne other important thing is being familiar enough with Only Connect to know they really like self-referential questions. I knew (with the benefit of the video title making me think) where they were going with the first clue, but guessed it was first round points (so fourth would be something for one point). I got rather confused by the Red thing until she explained it.

@@Nyxtia Well a try in one kind of rugby is 5 and in the other is 4. I'd have thought 4321 would have been the pattern and got it wrong when 'Yellow' was revealed, albeit having got close.

That's where i went too.

It doesn’t help, trust me.

No reason you can't be knowledgeable about Rugby or snooker. You can find tons of great snooker on UA-cam.

Also a red in snooker isn't always worth 1 point and a B in scrabble is worth 4 on the right square.

@@SylvanApe A red is always worth 1 point. The other colours can change value if they are nominated as free balls. By the rules of snooker you cannot take a red as a free ball for another colour. And how can a B be worth 4 if its base value is 3?

Proper rugby.

@@michaelocyoung Didn't know that about reds, and I was thinking of double letter spaces, just got the value wrong. Thanks for the catch.

Of the two codes, one has its largest tournament titled the Rugby League World Cup. The other is called the Rugby World Cup. Pretty easy to figure out what code they're referring to when you consider how the terms are used colloquially.

The actual answer whether it’s thrown over or not is “a loss” or just anything worth zero points, which doesn’t need to be from a specific game at all and you don’t need the rest of the clues to get - if you see the first and know it’s about the number of points you get in an only connect question then you can get it from the first. They often have worse examples than this on the fill in the blank round.

You're not supposed to say Red. You are supposed to say anything that is worth 0. A blank scrabble tile, a missed penalty, par in golf, etc. would have all worked.

or a 19 in cribbage

You aren’t supposed to say red. It’s a clue “change” because the third clue goes from 3 to 1 point if passed over, so Yellow would no longer be accurate

You very much can get the answer from the question. You should watch the show 😊

Or rather about the gross inequality in the kind of education people are getting. The type of education and educational environment necessary to want to go on Only Connect shouldn't just be for the rich (or those fortunate enough to be born in specific parts of the south with state schools on par with northern private schools).

@@ccaagg What? That makes no sense. Not the least because the contestants on Only connect are generally poor at the game (which is ideal because that means, as the audience, we generally get to see all of the clues more of the time than if they were better at the game) Although I'll accept having an advantage being comfortable at home, we nearly always score higher than the contestants in the studio. Having a maths degree or going to Eton isn't going to help. And we typically get one or 2 five pointers a show - again though whether we'd take the risk if we were under pressure in the studio is a different question. Although the format of the show now is such that you have to lose twice, so I would take the strategy to take all the risks on the first loss and try and get those 5 point scores, and only take the steadier strategy if you lost your last game need to win the next to stay in (when you'll be playing against people who likely aren't as good anyway - unless they took similar risks - but they most likely didn't most of the contestants are overly cautious and take extra 2 clues sometimes while i'm shouting at the TV "It's mary fucking poppins! obviously! why did she say next?? Her teammate already gave the right answer!" in disbelief) There's an easy method to get better at only connect : (a) Binge watch the shows back to back (they're all on youtube and (b) Pause after each clue and think for as long as you need to get the answer. Don't fret about the rule that says you get 30 seconds or whatever. Pause and think...only get the next clue when you're absolutely certain you don't know. That way you'll start getting more answers, it might take you longer than the time the contestants get, but you'll get your epiphany of "oh yeah! it's blah blah blah" and then you hit play and see you were right. Now all you have to do is get faster - which you will get if you keep playing. Because most of the questions use the same set of patterns, especially in the 2nd round. If you do that, and you have average intelligence or higher (and you care about getting better and like the show) then you'll start to see an improvement and I think you'll start to conclude that the "hardest quiz on TV" thing and all these Etonians on the show is just guff. It's actually a pretty easy quiz but it's played by people who the BBC think are smart rather than by people who are actually good at it - and that's why I'm not on the show because (a) I don't fit the mould for what the BBC looks for - as you say, you can see the type of contestant and (b) I frankly find Victoria's insults / jokes of the contestants off putting. Especially when during one series over covid she started berating the audience who were pointing out just how weird and rude the behaviour was from some more recent attention seeking contestants. Suddenly then she was saying how "inclusive" only connect has to be and how we shouldn't mock the people on the show - yet every introduction for 17 series she's made a point of mocking the contestants (I know they're only meant to be jokes) If you do what most people do (a) Sit watching it real time (b) Give up and let Victoria spoon feed you the answer (c) go online agreeing with everyone else that the questions are really hard, then you'll obviously never improve. Because the only way to improve is to discover the answers for yourself using lateral thought. Except perhaps perchance they do a question about something that you recognise straight away and you can see on twitter how excited people get if they answer 1 question the whole game. But the show has nothing to do with education or how much money you have. It's about seeing patterns and using lateral thought (most of the 2nd round questions use the same set of common patterns that you will start to see if you study the show rather than watching it once a week. They're often simple like 'A B C D or 1 2 3 4, or maybe reverse 4 3 2 1, and you just have to look for them. In the same way the connection round often has a connection where the prefix or suffix is another word - well we don't spot these by accident, we look for them because there's usually one there. Or anagrams etc. It's just a pattern that they've had in every show for 17 or more series. It's not a course you do at Eton but that isn't available at a comprehensive school. Remember Boris Johnson went to Eton and Liz Truss went to Oxbridge - they're not smart people. There are some very smart people at university and, yes at Oxford and Cambridge, but most of them are not smart and the kind of smart at Oxbridge isn't required. This is a simple BBC quiz show, it's not proving pi is transcendental or proving fermat's last theorem. Similarly colours often refer to snooker values (y2, g3, br4, bl5 etc) or rainbow positions "roygbiv' - occasionally a layman level view of science or maths is useful, but you certainly do not need to be educated. It's nothing like 'University challenge' where I'd suggest that show is geared towards a higher level of education. I probably wouldn't score more than 1 or 2 points if I watched University challenge, but I can score highly on Only connect consistently. And that's not because I was super smart and just sat down and started shouting the correct answers. I sucked at it as much as everyone else at first - and then for a while I could answer stuff but it took me minutes to think of it. Now I can more or less answer most of the stuff in the given time. It's because I really like the show and I've spent hours sitting watching back to back episodes with the screen paused, scratching my chin with my SO until we got the answer. Often she makes a comment about one of the clues and I see the connection. To be fair, some weeks we do poorly, and it does get harder at the finals - I'm not sure we'd win but if we could recreate our home performance we'd do well - and there's only 2 of us, if we found a 3rd person who was nothing like us, maybe younger so they were fast on the missing vowels we'd be a strong team. I can see why some people couldn't care less and just want to sit watch it, but there's not much you need to have studied that isn't in the show. And obviously you might not get every pop culture reference, book titles, or whatever, but that's really no different to any other quiz. e.g We know all 50 states because of Tenable not because we did geography - quiz level knowledge is really trivia, the more quizzes you do the more you know the kings and queens of England or whatever, so if they have a question that's showing the wives of the last 4 presidents or something, we know that kind of thing from doing a lot of quizzing.

@@michael1 You've written far too much there than I think is reasonable for me to respond to in entirety. What I will say is that Only Connect is my favourite quiz show and and I enjoy cryptic crosswords. My point was never about level of education, but the type of environment. Plenty of people can do well at these kinds of things without that, but people who are private school educated are definitely more likely to be familiar with that way of thinking. That's not because of better funding or better teaching, but the "classical" approach to education and how it's understood as a premise that everyone there is almost _destined_ to be okay in life. It's this sense of comfort and the way that private schools build the confidence and self-esteem of their pupils that encourages the kind of playful, frivolous, arguably self-indulgent thinking that you need to do things like cryptic crosswords. It is, objectively, a total waste of time and effort. The same is true about quizzing (something I also enjoy, but don't do often). There's a reason you don't find as many working-class nerds as from other social strata - they don't have the level of comfort required to waste their time on things so fruitless and (very literally) trivial since there are likely very real and immediate things for them to worry about. You mention that you've had to invest time in improving at Only Connect. The key thing to realise here is that being able to safely do that with your time without inviting precarity is a privilege, no matter how small it might be. Granted, this wasn't my main point and I'm sure anyone so interested in Only Connect would be able to find the time for it somewhere. All I was trying to say is that private school and the sense of intellectual ability, comfort and confidence it affords mean that most of the people enjoying Only Connect will probably be private school educated.

​@@michael1 I made a reply, but it looks like UA-cam didn't like it. Maybe this shorter one will stick. (EDIT: Maybe it's just not showing it to _me_ - I'll wait and see and if my first reply is still around I'll delete this.) It's not about level of education, but the confidence-building 'intellect'-glorifying environment private schools offer that often leads people to start enjoying such frivolous (maybe even self-indulgent) 'intellectual play' as Only Connect or something like cryptic crosswords. I say this as someone who enjoys both - I'm not coming at this from an outside perspective, I just recognise the material conditions that lead to this kind of thing being dominated by the private school educated.

they’d cry themselves to sleep, honestly

​@1800crystalball Or they'd see a clip of Paxman and think "who's this jackass?".

I've been on University Challenge. Only Connect is definitely worse.

Nah, you just need to get used to the types of questions they ask. They're always cryptic or obscure, and require you to pick up on subtle clues in the question and consider any associations that a clue might prompt. It's definitely a very hard quiz, though.

i'm not British so i'm not sure how well known "try" is as a term and "B" is definitely tricky. any Only Connect contestant should be familiar with snooker though, the question writers bloody love snooker clues.

they'd allow any example of a 4th listing as long as the points valued is correct. they don't demand you to be psychic

If I had worked out the pattern (which is obviously a ginormous “if”), I probably would’ve said “Love,” which is the term for zero in Tennis.

They aren't supposed to figure out the sports sequence, only that they correspond to point values. Anything worth 0 in sports/games (par in golf, a gutter ball in bowling, a miss in darts for example) would've been a valid answer.

She would have given the points even without a valid example. If either team answered "Something denoting zero points or value (if you see this)" she would accept it.

"i am too stupid for this show"

@@olivermalin you may well be

Subjective. Personally I enjoy a show that uses varying blends of trivia and logic.

@@NTelling it's more the presenter for me. I find she has no personality even though I think she's hot as hell!

@@incineakechi5197 you’ve never heard of the letter B?

@@1800crystalball oh come on you know he means he's never heard of a B in that specific context to mean that specific thing. neither have i

@@iwvaksindustries Scrabble comes up a lot in quiz shows, as does Monopoly. This show is famously cryptic with the clues. The difficulty often lies in forming associations with abstract things like 'try' and 'b'. This question is a lot easier if you've watched a few episodes, but seems a bit jarring compared to the straightforward questions in other shows.

It's a British show where it is very reasonable to assume the contestants know about rugby and snooker

Some people will have gotten in tbf

I got it. Granted, I needed the bonus clue, but it was annoyingly close. B was what stumped me, but I thought about the correct thing for Try and Yellow

I got it on the 2nd clue. OC questions are very cryptic and difficult, but you get used to them. The important skill is to look for word associations. The "If you see this" parts being self-referential were also a big giveaway. Seeing both 'Try' and 'B' made me look for point connections and I realised it was a scoring question.

skill issue tbh

And you don't know the answers. No connection, I'm sure.

@@JohnnyA-bf6iqdefinitely

And yet here you are...

I thought it was great. I got it on clue 2. For people that aren't used to the show or cryptic clues I can see how they'd find it frustrating though. You really need to see a bunch of these questions to understand what to look for in the clues.

somebody thinks you should leave us be

why are you wasting more time commenting this?

It's Only Connect, I think these kinds of questions come with the territory tbh

Awww

You have to care a smidge to get on "Only Connect". There are no non smidge-carers on this show....