Thanks for the informative video John! I've had my eye on this router for some time now and I am still interested. I can't lie though, I am a little concerned about that collet arm. It's a brilliant innovation but I feel like with my luck, I'd buy one and not long later they'll quietly update it with a reinforced lever. I would love it if you were up for doing even a small review of the Erika as that's another product I'm considering. It's between that and the Festool CSC 50 at the moment.
Hi.. thanks for comment. The best thing to do as regards the Lo55 0:01 is to go and have a play with one, see what you think even if it cost a bit of petrol money. Has regards an Erika video, it would be difficult for me to do, holding a phone and talk about different operations.. maybe in future if I get a camera. What I will say is, again go and have a look because it can be a frustrating machine to use when you first get it and like all Mafell products the instructions are useless and the Mafell tutorial and alot of reviews are not English speaking. The build quality and durability of the machine is good but until you understand it's little ways and you are prepared to faff about making sure you have the correct measurement your after at the front and back of the machine especially when your using the rip fence then if time is not a problem to you then you may well be happy with it. Changing the blade as well is a pain, you have to do it on your knees from underneath. In my opinion Mafell need to update this saw and make it more user friendly and not so frustrating to use and take a leaf out of FESTOOL book and produce some decent videos. I don't know where your are based if your were local to me I would let you come over and have a play then you would get a better understanding of the niggles that are present in the saw. In short would l buy it again, then no, do I wish that I would had look at one first, yes. Go and have a look at both saws before you part with your money. Take care
One of the problems I have with this 1/4" router is that it doesn't have a battery. The entire industry is moving towards a cordless machine, but for Mafell, after 6 years of development, they refused a battery version.
I bought one of FFX and it was dinted and paint chipped of it. Then I found an eBay return note in the bottom lol not mafells fault but I sent it back. This has put me off and I’m going back to festool I think.
I'm not a Mafell fanboy by any means and I only own one of their tools, the KSS60, but I can't see your logic here. The use of Bosch parts doesn't mean that the overall tool is equivalent to a Bosch. When you buy a Mafell, you're paying for the design and features of the tool, which are the things which might, or might not, make it more convenient, useful, accurate or time saving compared to competitors. Almost every piece of equipment, from tools to TV's are made from other manufacturer parts, because each company usually specialises in certain products. If they tried to manufacture every single part, they'd become spread thin and a jack of all trades. Plus, Bosch are known for high quality engineering and longevity, so as far as externally sourced parts go, Bosch are pretty hard to beat.
@@ImLeeBee talk about not understanding the logic..... would you pay 5-6 times for a bosch tool with a mafell shell? You don't buy a Ferrari and expect a ford engine. A professional tool repair shop says there is nothing special about Mafell but the bosch parts they are made from are okay so there's that. WTF?
@@tableshaper4076 Yes the use of Bosch parts making them "nothing special" is illogical. Apollo 11 was built using parts from many, many companies. You didn't say anything along the lines of "I can see this product is 5x the price of this competing product but I only see a 1.1x improvement, which isn't worth it". Also, it's not just a Bosch tool in a Mafell shell. I agree, they're very expensive, but they are adding value by introducing innovations here and there which weather or not it's worth the cost difference is up to you. Remember, if you're a professional user, going through a lot of material or making a lot of money, a 1% increase in productivity, or a 1% decrease in wasted material, could potentially pay back the difference you paid. Obviously, this isn't specific to Mafell, it's just how things work. Often, the last 10% refinement of anything, has a cost that vastly outweighs that 10%. In this case, that collet locking lever snapped, but that type of innovation is that 10%, which most people don't actually need, but there is a market for it.
thank you. decision made. Mafell can get fu*ked.
Thanks for the informative video John! I've had my eye on this router for some time now and I am still interested. I can't lie though, I am a little concerned about that collet arm. It's a brilliant innovation but I feel like with my luck, I'd buy one and not long later they'll quietly update it with a reinforced lever. I would love it if you were up for doing even a small review of the Erika as that's another product I'm considering. It's between that and the Festool CSC 50 at the moment.
Hi.. thanks for comment. The best thing to do as regards the Lo55 0:01 is to go and have a play with one, see what you think even if it cost a bit of petrol money. Has regards an Erika video, it would be difficult for me to do, holding a phone and talk about different operations.. maybe in future if I get a camera. What I will say is, again go and have a look because it can be a frustrating machine to use when you first get it and like all Mafell products the instructions are useless and the Mafell tutorial and alot of reviews are not English speaking. The build quality and durability of the machine is good but until you understand it's little ways and you are prepared to faff about making sure you have the correct measurement your after at the front and back of the machine especially when your using the rip fence then if time is not a problem to you then you may well be happy with it. Changing the blade as well is a pain, you have to do it on your knees from underneath. In my opinion Mafell need to update this saw and make it more user friendly and not so frustrating to use and take a leaf out of FESTOOL book and produce some decent videos. I don't know where your are based if your were local to me I would let you come over and have a play then you would get a better understanding of the niggles that are present in the saw. In short would l buy it again, then no, do I wish that I would had look at one first, yes. Go and have a look at both saws before you part with your money. Take care
One of the problems I have with this 1/4" router is that it doesn't have a battery. The entire industry is moving towards a cordless machine, but for Mafell, after 6 years of development, they refused a battery version.
I bought one of FFX and it was dinted and paint chipped of it. Then I found an eBay return note in the bottom lol not mafells fault but I sent it back. This has put me off and I’m going back to festool I think.
I was considering Mafell until I watch a few repair channels and they said they use standard bosch parts, there is nothing special about them.
I'm not a Mafell fanboy by any means and I only own one of their tools, the KSS60, but I can't see your logic here. The use of Bosch parts doesn't mean that the overall tool is equivalent to a Bosch. When you buy a Mafell, you're paying for the design and features of the tool, which are the things which might, or might not, make it more convenient, useful, accurate or time saving compared to competitors. Almost every piece of equipment, from tools to TV's are made from other manufacturer parts, because each company usually specialises in certain products. If they tried to manufacture every single part, they'd become spread thin and a jack of all trades. Plus, Bosch are known for high quality engineering and longevity, so as far as externally sourced parts go, Bosch are pretty hard to beat.
@@ImLeeBee talk about not understanding the logic..... would you pay 5-6 times for a bosch tool with a mafell shell? You don't buy a Ferrari and expect a ford engine. A professional tool repair shop says there is nothing special about Mafell but the bosch parts they are made from are okay so there's that. WTF?
@@tableshaper4076 Yes the use of Bosch parts making them "nothing special" is illogical. Apollo 11 was built using parts from many, many companies. You didn't say anything along the lines of "I can see this product is 5x the price of this competing product but I only see a 1.1x improvement, which isn't worth it". Also, it's not just a Bosch tool in a Mafell shell. I agree, they're very expensive, but they are adding value by introducing innovations here and there which weather or not it's worth the cost difference is up to you. Remember, if you're a professional user, going through a lot of material or making a lot of money, a 1% increase in productivity, or a 1% decrease in wasted material, could potentially pay back the difference you paid. Obviously, this isn't specific to Mafell, it's just how things work. Often, the last 10% refinement of anything, has a cost that vastly outweighs that 10%. In this case, that collet locking lever snapped, but that type of innovation is that 10%, which most people don't actually need, but there is a market for it.