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This was an ammo issue. I was shooting 158gr lead round nose PPU 38 special through it when it locked up. Turns out that ammo caked the cylinder pin. The simple fix was to remove the cylinder and clean the cylinder pin. FMJ or JHP wouldn't have caused that issue.

@ happened on a brand new one for me. Everything 100% clean so I doubt at least mine was caused by non jacketed ammo, which they probably don’t test guns with at the factory anyways. Have you disassembled that revolver before this issue happened? How do you know it wasn’t just fouled up internals from the factory?

@@Whateveryousay31 It fired just fine previously with JHP 357 mag. I've since traded off the gun for something else. I have a pair of Ruger Security Six revolvers that I prefer over the GP100 for their lighter weight.

@@drobs7279 there’s no way that ruger would engineer the gp100 to malfunction with non jacketed loads, especially on a sidearm geared towards hunters. There must be more to the story, but you were smart to sell it off. The older rugers built the reputation they tarnished with me with malfunctioning new production guns.

That was somewhere down near Ozark Arkansas during a Rendezvous in the Ozarks get together.

@drobs7279 awesome thank you

I replaced it with a MKE AP5 & AP5-P. My dealer took the Zenith back and shipped it to Davidson's.

That was just the Clutch burning up...

4 low in a Jeep turns off the traction / stability control.

Thanks for joining us! That Gladiator of yours on 40's did great. My neighbor Lonnie, who was riding with me, put together a video here: ua-cam.com/video/JoJKYJDnnGU/v-deo.html

@drobs7279 Great i will be checking that out today and thank you both of you

@drobs7279 that was a great video !!!

I got one. It works perfectly.

Mine doesn’t. FTF, nonaConcentric

You’re definitely mistaken

I got it to run 50rds of Winchester 124gr Nato with 2 x $75 HK mags and a new extractor spring. Switching to MKE mags, it started jamming all over again.

My FFL got it from Davidson's who has a policy to accept returns / issue refunds on non-functioning guns with a small restocking fee. The Zenith went back to Davidson's and I replaced it with a Century MKE AP5-P which runs flawlessly. z I will say avoid KCI mags. MKE and HK mags work great. KCI gen1 and gen2 mags = last round FTF's.

Sorry to break it to you but the ptr is not nearly as good as the ap5

Well, that’s OK. That might be your experience. I actually love my AP five and my PTR, but I’ve had many less problems with the PTR. When I first got the AP five, the factory had down the end of the ejector so it was not functioning well, and it had an old bent extractor spring in it so I changed both of those and then it ran like a top. I’ve never had a single issue with the PTR, I love the AP5 as well

@carlos8398 I understand. I wasn't trying to be rude or hateful. I was speaking on my personal experience. I was going to buy a ptr after handling the ptr it just didn't seem the same quality as my ap5.

Just do what I did get them both

I had one and it wasn’t worth the money. Mine use to jam a lot and fail to extract rounds. I clean my guns after every range visit hoped that would help but it didn’t. That’s the only gun I’ve ever had an issue with. The ptr9 was okay but definitely not good for long term. Sold it ended up getting a ap5 and a zenith zf5.

It's always fun to see unique vehicles tackle a trail.

@@drobs7279 yes !!!

@drobs7279 which parts of mark twain do you all normally run ???

@@jonathonbilyeu5343 We normally run the Glade Top Trail area. This was over by Garrison Rd and Devreaux Rd.

@@drobs7279 nice

$2900 !

To much money!!!!!

I turned the comments off because of trolls. I actually plan to delete those videos. I returned the POS Zenith to my dealer who is getting a credit from Davidsons.

I turned them back on just now. I expect some nasty comments on my muzzle control and I will respond back in kind.

It no work. I might trade it in on a real H&K SP5K PDW.

This was up north between GTT and Skyline. It would make for a good swimming hole.

It's a Griffin Gate Lok but I figured out my problem. Turns out you need to use Wilson Combat A2 Flash Hiders.

​@@drobs7279 Did Wilson combat flash hiders fix your problem? I'm not paying 100$ a piece for Griffin A2 comps lol. I have been machining my own down to fit from midway. If Wilson fits it would sure help me out

@@barrygregg3476 A $10 Wilson Combat Flash Hider fixed my problem with the Griffin Gate Lok not fitting on my PSA AR15's. For 30 cal / 308 you need to buy the $100 Griffin Flash Hider / Muzzle Device to use the Gate-Lok.

@@drobs7279not all A2 flash hiders are equal

I believe he moved to Alaska and I don't see him posting as much on The Highroad. Your best bet would be to join the BP Forum on: www.thehighroad.org Another BP smith that does the same work is: www.goonsgunworks.com/ Jackrabbit1957 is 3rd member on the Highroad that smiths C&B revolvers.

True. However, I have fired probably 200,000 rounds through S&W and Ruger revolvers and have never had one single misfire or mechanical failure. There are drawbacks as you mention, but contrary to what others may say, revolvers normally are generational reliable.

Wrong - the fouling on the cylinder pin caused this issue. Cleaning the cylinder pin fixed it.

@@drobs7279 both issues cause this. Luckily the cleaning did the trick. I mean I have heard folk tales of a Ruger revolver somewhere that had an issue somehow, but honestly Ruger stands behind their stuff. They have better service, support, and warranty than some higher end companies. I will never hesitate to buy a Ruger revolver

My fix was to sell the pickup to a friend - pass the buck. I think it's still doing it for him .

My friend wrapped the OD on off button on the shifter with a hair tie. I'd think a zip tie would do the same trick.

Mine does the same thing can't fine the problem

@@jesuse.p4138 Wrap the Overdrive on/off button with a zip tie, bailing wire, rubber band, or duct tape. My friend that I sold my Frontier to is currently using a hair tie to hold the button engaged.

Thanks I tried that, holding it down, and pressing it on+ off and still no luck ​@@drobs7279

Lol - it's off a gravel road. I understand 2 out of the 500 some Jeeps turned around at the 1st water crossing. I can understand the Renegade owner being worried but not the Wrangler owner...

@drobs7279 I intentionally seek those out, lol! Long as it's no deeper than your tires there shouldn't be an issue.

@@MozarkAdventures I think everyone loves a good water crossing. This video is off of Keltner Road and Hwy T. Google "Keltner Road, MO."

@drobs7279 thank you for the info. Been on a few county roads nearby. If you're ever exploring on the eastern side of the state check out Madison 208 crossing the Castor River, be sure to check out the shut-ins near there too.

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