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Why Talent Isn’t Enough: My Review of 20 Feet from Stardom
In today’s video, I explore the 2013 Oscar-winning documentary 20 Feet from Stardom, directed by Morgan Neville. It tells the untold story of incredibly talented backup singers like Lisa Fischer, Darlene Love or Merry Clayton, who, despite their immense talent, never quite made it to the centre stage. The film explores themes of success, exploitation, and the emotional journey of artists.
I'll share my personal impressions of the documentary, uncover the behind-the-scenes secrets of iconic music moments, and reflect on what true success really means in the world of music and beyond.
#videoessay #music #documentary
For educational purpose
Narrated and Edited by Antoine Abou-Samra.
Footage from 20 Feet From Stardom (2013)
Artists showcased:
Lisa Fischer
Joe Cocker
George Harrison
Ringo Starr
Darlene Love
Ray Charles
Merry Clayton
Luther Vandross
David Bowie
Mick Jagger
Ike and Tina Turner
Lynn Mabry
Bruce Springsteen
Táta Vega
Lou Adler
Claudia Lennear
Sting
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  • @CherryClayton
    @CherryClayton День тому

    Ike was a pimp that's St.louis 💯

  • @BaronSemediLive
    @BaronSemediLive День тому

    This is something I've always known having great interest in showbiz; but to hear such talented people speak about their experiences is incredibly sad

  • @77Creation
    @77Creation День тому

    Sad to say but looks and charisma are equally important. Arguably more important.

  • @ColoradoNebraska
    @ColoradoNebraska День тому

    Talent has never been enough! So many variables involved such as race , gender , skin tone , proximity to beauty and the proximity to talent that is willing to take you to the top. Marketing, fans and politics. I hate when yall say "sell your soul" Yall literally out here selling your soul every second at your jobs making minimum wage and still not creating! Thats life. Its never been fair. Even the most beautiful of the blondes that are perfect! Still dont always make it. We are living on stolen native land built by slaves on dirt where they burned woman for being "witches"

  • @oliviastar3812
    @oliviastar3812 3 дні тому

    Clearly such a waste of SO much talent amongst black females with true soulful voices. The richness and quality of their natural voices is often imitated but rarely if ever matched - and even then, why veer from the real deal? That sound has become the standard for excellence in all MOBO and its imitators. What a shame they chased fame and lost out. Even those that apparently 'won' only realised it was a false path leading to destruction (check Billie Holliday, Whitney H et al for a few examples). Sadly, an evil music business where it's not what you know/do but who ...

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 3 дні тому

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Indeed there is so much talent that goes to waste. But thanks to fan like you, who recognize these talents, there may be a way for these artists to make a living, and continue creating.

  • @JamesHarris-hl2bm
    @JamesHarris-hl2bm 3 дні тому

    Lisa Fischer has an amazing voice. I remember when I first hear How and I ease the pain. Brilliant and it was a huge hit and she won a deserved grammy (thatyear was a tie with Patti LaBelle), but how in the hell was the followup Save Me not a hit? That was a classic!

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 3 дні тому

      Thank you for sharing your love for Lisa Fischer. What a fabulous artist!

  • @groove1722
    @groove1722 4 дні тому

    So many things have to come together at the same time for anyone to become a big star in the music industry. It's the right timing, the right song, the right production, and the right promotion and distribution. The most important thing is doing what you love and making a decent living doing it.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 4 дні тому

      Well said! There are so many factors out of our control. It's so much better to focus on the things we can have an impact on: what and how we create.

  • @lordcron
    @lordcron 5 днів тому

    I've always felt that.... I've held many positions where I was supposed to get that raise or position and got passed over.... It's never fair!...

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 5 днів тому

      Thank you for sharing this. It's great point. In the documentary, Sting talks about the issue of fairness. Indeed, it is never fair. But it should not stop us from trying and pursuing what is meaningful to us. And it's not easy.

  • @tylikestotalk
    @tylikestotalk 6 днів тому

    this is such great, profound insight. thank you :)

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 6 днів тому

      Thank you for your kind words. It means a lot that you enjoyed the video.

  • @MillerTimeVoiceOver
    @MillerTimeVoiceOver 6 днів тому

    Well done! Love it!

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 6 днів тому

      Thank you for your kind words. I am so happy you enjoyed the video!

  • @Lovejazz01
    @Lovejazz01 7 днів тому

    Two of the famous and successful singers in music history were once background singers, Mariah Carey and Mary J Blige. But there is not too many others background singers that had success, that I know of. Maybe Kelly Price, who was one of Mariah’s background singers.

    • @blackironpotrecords1600
      @blackironpotrecords1600 День тому

      You can also add Luther Vandross to your list. He was a background vocalist for David Bowie, Chaka Khan, Barbra Streisand, Carly Simon, Bette Midler, Donna Summer and Roberta Flack.

    • @Lovejazz01
      @Lovejazz01 День тому

      @ yes indeed!

    • @mmmitchell6887
      @mmmitchell6887 14 годин тому

      You can add Whitney Houston to that list. She sang back up for Chaka Khan. Check out the album credits on Chaka‘s album called naughty you’ll find sissy Houston, Whitney Houston and Luther Vandross used to read album credits when I was an early teen so I recognize those names when they became big, and I got a chance to see all of them Perform .

    • @Lovejazz01
      @Lovejazz01 14 годин тому

      I would add Kelly Price to that list too ( I forgot) , she sang background for Mariah Carey in the 90’s before her solo debut.

  • @CrackHeadHuntersDopeman
    @CrackHeadHuntersDopeman 8 днів тому

    I lmew since I was a kid im the 80s. You have been brainwashed if you think this is a new discovery! I guess you Swifties are disappointed, huh?😂😂😂

  • @heyrobertcarter1
    @heyrobertcarter1 9 днів тому

    Let’s keep it real every one is not built to be a star! That another level another of hunger. Not to take anything away from the talent.

  • @robertb5357
    @robertb5357 9 днів тому

    I remeber Lisa Fischer once stated that she never imagined the vigors and pain of being an recodring artist. During her promotion for the album "So Intense", she lamented that the politics with the record labels and executives deterred her from doing another album. She stated she was content with just being a backup singer. Today, she does very well on the concert circuit. It may not be stadium shows but she loves the small intimate setting of the venue. And lets not forget, many artist rarely makes money from record/album sales. The system is against recording artist and the only people making money are the record labels. The record label robbed the music fans of such of wonderful and cherished singer, who can really sing.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 8 днів тому

      Thank you for your comment. You are pointing at a very important point, which is the definition of success. For Lisa Fischer, it is not being a superstar or playing huge arenas, but being able to be herself and play/sing the music she wants. The industry has changed so much, and some of the winners are the labels and the streaming platforms. Navigating the industry for an artist has got so much harder. For her to make it on her own terms is a great achievement, and success.

    • @Auntkekebaby
      @Auntkekebaby 6 днів тому

      You write what I wanted to write. It's not a failure to walk away from the horrible business side of it. Lisa is successful because she's doing what she lives. She's a true artist. Nowadays, you don't have to be signed to a major label. If you have the talent, it's best to go it along instead of being "made" or robbed. Having said that, I still feel bad for the ones who really wanted it. Music, politics, and the business are different things.

  • @ilikeitlikethat7305
    @ilikeitlikethat7305 12 днів тому

    I wish this was longer

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 11 днів тому

      Thank you for your comment. I can highly recommend watching the full documentary, it's wonderful. And if you like video essays, here is the first one I did on why we need stories: ua-cam.com/video/vLswpaLKKlI/v-deo.html. It's a commentary on John Yorke’s book “Into the Woods”

    • @ilikeitlikethat7305
      @ilikeitlikethat7305 11 днів тому

      @ ♥️

    • @ilikeitlikethat7305
      @ilikeitlikethat7305 11 днів тому

      @ yes I’ve seen the documentary but there’s something special about your commentary and analysis that I wish was longer 😃 I’ll check out you’re recommendation.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 10 днів тому

      @@ilikeitlikethat7305 You are so kind. Thank you. Let me know what you think of the other video essay.

  • @nflgalsc
    @nflgalsc 12 днів тому

    Luther gave her her flowers

  • @sbaxsbax3810
    @sbaxsbax3810 15 днів тому

    Love, miss and still listen to Joe Cocker. Rest well Joe.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 15 днів тому

      Joe Cocker was an amazing artist. He gave it all when he performed. Body and mind.

  • @donhagerty5669
    @donhagerty5669 15 днів тому

    A DIFFERENT SONG EXPLAINS THE STATE OF THE WORLD NOWADAYS, THE SONG IS YOU LOST THAT LOVING FEELING (NOW IT'S GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE GONE)❤❤❤

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 15 днів тому

      Music has always been a wonderful way to express thoughts, feelings and views of the world.

  • @ninared6816
    @ninared6816 16 днів тому

    I don't understand why Luther Vandross didn't support Lisa Fischer's solo career. She was one of his back up singers. He could have helped her if he wanted to. When you make it bring someone else along. Your light will still continue to shine. Sad.

    • @lawandpolicy
      @lawandpolicy 16 днів тому

      He thought did. I saw her singing solos at his concerts. Luther was a backup singer for many stars. Longevity is with backup singers. Look what happened to so many of the stars.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 15 днів тому

      It's an interesting point. In the documentary, Lisa Fisher talks about her career and outlook on her life as an artist. She won a Grammy, so she must have been supported by people in the industry. But it seems she never really felt comfortable under the big lights, on her own. I suppose what is important for the artist is to be in a place and space that feels right, and where they can express themselves freely.

    • @bluking4259
      @bluking4259 13 днів тому

      She was supported by him.

    • @Garcelle1987
      @Garcelle1987 10 днів тому

      Luther was a huge supporter of Lisa’s solo career era He literally co wrote 3 songs on her debut album ‘So Intense’ (1991) & he co produced 4 songs too. And on his 1996 Secret Love album he has a duet with her called ‘Whether or not the world gets better’ - She is fully credited as a featured artist on that. Like I know she once addressed the lack of a second album ever being made as ‘energies shifting’, which really tbh could mean anything from Lisa herself was not feeling it or perhaps industry politics?🤔 Who knows. She is still an amazingly talented lady, still out here performing 🙌

    • @phantpwr
      @phantpwr 8 днів тому

      He did, he was responsible for her solo career.

  • @spellerlittlewing
    @spellerlittlewing 18 днів тому

    She just screaming that’s not singing

    • @comeagyn
      @comeagyn 11 днів тому

      she's completely on pitch. her tone is crystal clear and she going from octave to octave. not many people "scream" like that.

    • @77Creation
      @77Creation День тому

      🙄 Whatever, man.

  • @jbaugh2851
    @jbaugh2851 22 дні тому

    They forgot about Rosie Gaines too. 💎 & 🦪

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 21 день тому

      Thank you for reminding us of Rosie Gaines. Fantastic talent who had a solo career, and played also for Prince.

  • @Jack-ke5uv
    @Jack-ke5uv 26 днів тому

    "Backup singers" are most often not given the recognition they deserve even if the backup singers are an integral part of a group that has a lead singer...The Marvellettes or Martha and the Vandellas..etc. This is largely the public's fault as most people do not take an interest in anyone in the group except the lead singer. Most people don't even bother to learn the names of any of the group members except for the lead singer.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 26 днів тому

      Thank you for your comment. It is an interesting point, never really thought about.

  • @LavaVideoz
    @LavaVideoz 26 днів тому

    Thanks for this inspiring video!

  • @ardentdesir5796
    @ardentdesir5796 28 днів тому

    This story deserves something longer than a short

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 28 днів тому

      Totally agree. There is a full video essay on 20 Feet From Stardom on the channel: ua-cam.com/video/eXX6Pqm7tLs/v-deo.html

  • @tbam73
    @tbam73 Місяць тому

    What is a shame is that these voices had SO MUCH to do with the success of such huge classic songs. And they were underpaid, and given no chance to succeed because of the business. So much talent left penniless and no career to show up

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 29 днів тому

      Great point. That is one of the underlying themes in the documentary, and one that is heartbreaking and also revolting. Sadly, it happens in many industries. As Sting says, "it's not about fairness." Unfortunately.

  • @tbam73
    @tbam73 Місяць тому

    Lisa. Lisa Fisher and r&b fans know exactly who she is. Rolling Stone fans def knows who she is.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      And I guess you are one of these fans 😀. Fantastic taste!

    • @AP1977plus2
      @AP1977plus2 13 днів тому

      @@ATableForTwoFilms And so am I

    • @MrsThollo
      @MrsThollo 4 дні тому

      Yes ma'am!!!! She was very popular when I was young.

  • @vmrhanky
    @vmrhanky Місяць тому

    this is what happens when you dont agree to sell your soul

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      That is a very interesting point. But what happens when you need to pay the rent, or pay for your children's tuition. These are hard choices to make. And I think everyone has a different way to answer this conundrum.

    • @messiahblackgod
      @messiahblackgod 20 днів тому

      EXACTLY

    • @comeagyn
      @comeagyn 11 днів тому

      it's music BUSINESS. being talented doesn't mean your product is sellable.

    • @DEGENEBABA
      @DEGENEBABA 11 днів тому

      I did agree on this, not everyone that's successful as sold there soul so not everyone that's not as refused to sell there soul. The thing everyone forgets is that music is just another trade like every other trades, how good you are don't determine how successful you will be in every single trade you are in. It has more to do with wether or not you have that thing that sells you to the greater group, ie,; a special product or products everyone wants to pay for. I'm a song writer and artiste, and I've had the pleasure of being in the studio with artistes that have a great song but ended up never making it because the production is too basic. Honestly a lot can go wrong with ur music, it may be the lyrics or the performance, or the delivery or just a terrible luck. If any of these or more goes wrong your beautiful voice won't save you. I still believe luck is the main thing here, cos with luck you will find someone who understands ur story and what you are trying to do and the best way to deliver that product. A producer once said' if like the song, at least a million listeners will. Song producers know how to make songs that sells, other just know how to make music. Like wise , song singers are great at singing, others aren't great at singing but not how to write a song that sells. But don't forget the Luck part of it.

    • @ColoradoNebraska
      @ColoradoNebraska День тому

      YOU PEOPLE love hating! Yall sell your souls at your 8 to 5 every day while making pennies !

  • @CurioByBSpokeDesigns
    @CurioByBSpokeDesigns Місяць тому

    Such a pity that these talented artists don't get the recognition the truly deserve.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      It is indeed. That is one of the reasons I loved the documentary, because it is such an important issue. Heartbreaking, actually.

  • @EDCReviewz
    @EDCReviewz Місяць тому

    I've been listening to Lisa Fischer for over 30 years. What an amazing talent, and 20 Feet is a spectacular documentary!

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      Wow, 30 years! That's some serious dedication! A fantastic talent! And her philosophy and approach to music are so humbling.

    • @sherryab3964
      @sherryab3964 17 днів тому

      Likewise and she’s incredible !!!!!

    • @matthewprince9705
      @matthewprince9705 14 днів тому

      Lisa Fischer doesn't want to be a solo commercial singer. She did release one album and the lead ballad received a Grammy. But she loves touring with rock bands.

    • @Garcelle1987
      @Garcelle1987 10 днів тому

      She’s an absolutely brilliant and beautiful woman. It makes sense that Luther Vandross adored her & even produced tracks on her debut album 🙌

  • @78918903
    @78918903 Місяць тому

    Super interesting 🤠 Feel like watching the movie now 🎼 Loved it 🔥

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      Thank you! The documentary is incredible, I highly recommend it 😀

  • @78918903
    @78918903 Місяць тому

    Wow 🎉that was superb 🤩 I loved it 🤠👌🏽💝

  • @ATableForTwoFilms
    @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

    Have you had the chance to read "Into the Woods"? Did you like? Or do you have any other favourite books on story structure?

    • @78918903
      @78918903 Місяць тому

      Forget the books I loved how you told the his stories and I loved your version 🎉It was inspiring 🙏🏽👌🏽😇

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      Thank you 😀. Happy you loved it

  • @jasonmacomber4020
    @jasonmacomber4020 Місяць тому

    great video!

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      🙏 Thank you. What's your favourite book on story structure?

  • @eliassteenhuus7301
    @eliassteenhuus7301 Місяць тому

    great vid bro please don't stop making more

  • @Rok_Piletic
    @Rok_Piletic 2 місяці тому

    Linux / Windows app?

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms 2 місяці тому

      It's planned but without a specific date yet. I'll share any updates on the Community posts on the Channel. Thank you for asking.

    • @Rok_Piletic
      @Rok_Piletic 2 місяці тому

      @@ATableForTwoFilms nice videos on DR 19

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Місяць тому

      Hello, the Windows version is now available. For access go to: tablefortwo.co/footage-organizer-landing-page/ Enjoy the app!

  • @magnetic.Tyrtle
    @magnetic.Tyrtle 7 місяців тому

    school

  • @cirion66
    @cirion66 Рік тому

    "Oh, humanity* has a negative impact on what we consider 'nature'"... So deep, so profound, never heard that one before.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Рік тому

      Thank you for your comment. There are so many things we don't realize, but it's happening all around. The first step toward awareness is really important.

    • @cirion66
      @cirion66 Рік тому

      ​@@ATableForTwoFilms "Nature" is a relative term. Nowadays we would say it is something that emerged and has been unaffected by a human. I say human and whatever we do is also a part of nature. The ultimate end of all - "The Heat death of the universe" does not ask what you consider to be natural. In the very distant future when resources are scarce and sources of energy nearly non-existant, our carbon-based bodies will not be the last the beacons of "life". Hopefully it will be our mechanical descendants, because our today's idea of "life" will not be suited for the survival. ("Emergence" is a "Life" itself IMO - when there ceases to be a room for a change - that is the death) So yeah. Go touch grass, hug tress and contribute nothing towards the distant technological galactic future. Preservation and ecological efficiency are sensible. Stubborn (in a spiral repeating) cries, that we should stop the technological advancements are not. (BTW in the grand scheme of things - I am indifferent... My carbon footprint is basically 0 in comparison to your average american. I work from home, don't have a need for a car, don't have a need to travel the world. Peace)

  • @ntombimadu8437
    @ntombimadu8437 Рік тому

    Alcohol makes me sick… I still consume it. So to answer your question…yes, yes I would consume something that makes me sick…deliberately

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Рік тому

      Thank you for your comment. Alcohol is not what I had in mind 😀. Because we have been aware that its consumption is not good for our health. But somehow our whole civilization has been built on it 😂. Drinking in moderation as they say. Here I am talking about companies deceiving consumers. I will be going more in details about the food that are said to be "healthy", "low-fat", etc which are in fact bad for our health. And there is so much more. To be continued

  • @a.j.20
    @a.j.20 Рік тому

    So true!

  • @ogmakefirefiregood
    @ogmakefirefiregood Рік тому

    Out of the abundance of the heart The mouth speaks.

  • @Mexicangoth
    @Mexicangoth Рік тому

    First comment

  • @joeld4012
    @joeld4012 Рік тому

    Weed mint lemon basli

  • @zealtqwerty3083
    @zealtqwerty3083 Рік тому

    Gasoline n' gunpowder

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому

    Petrichor.

  • @deanapps5119
    @deanapps5119 Рік тому

    Vanilla bean😊

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Рік тому

      Second that. It transports you to some kind of nice place, a bit of a tropical feel. 😀

  • @crateriousv2191
    @crateriousv2191 Рік тому

    Aller l’écologie !

  • @JuanRodriguez-uj8mo
    @JuanRodriguez-uj8mo Рік тому

    That’s embarrassing think before you speak 😂

  • @WalkerKlondyke
    @WalkerKlondyke Рік тому

    There is no "Climate Crisis" There is Climate Change It is slow, and it has ALWAYS been happening No one, no thing will stop it We will simply adapt as we always have Anyone pushing crisis paranoia is simply power hungry.

  • @MisfireInc
    @MisfireInc Рік тому

    So instead of taxing us make incentives for us to help. Simple. When it’s forced and taxed nobody is going to buy in.

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Рік тому

      It's interesting to see what kind of mechanism could instil changes in behaviours, especially in the world of food (which is the focus of A Table For Two). When one look at food companies, I would recommend listening to a fantastic interview with Marion Nestle (author of Food Politics): bit.ly/45qz825. And of course my interview with Andrew Revkin, on the topic of cilmate change communication in particular: bit.ly/415qGDs

  • @lowkeymanifestingdestiny5480

    Too bad things probably won't change until things get worse enough that it start bothering the personal bubble of ever everybody's life. I've noticed people don't really care less that happens😅

    • @ATableForTwoFilms
      @ATableForTwoFilms Рік тому

      Thank you for your comment. The sense of immediacy and how much something impacts us are important factors in one's desire to change. A Table For Two objective is to bring a better understanding of how Food systems function, and how we relate to food. Food is something that concerns each one of us. So hopefully, people will become more aware and start to make some changes.