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SamSmithsInfo
Приєднався 12 жов 2009
The unofficial news and communication website - for staff and customers.
A brief view of the power of Samuel Smiths Old Brewey - Tadcaster
BBC's Inside Out documentary - broadcasted 12th October, 2009 - in the Yorks and Links area. Gives just a very brief insight into the power of Sam Smiths brewery - and in particular how one of the two Director brothers - Humphrey W Smith - exercises his 'Lord of the Manor' type power, with apparently no regard for the hurt it may cause to many staff, customers, and literally, anyone who gets in his way. More information can be gleaned from our website: samsmiths.info which is a moderated open forum for managers, staff and customers - and was set up in the absence of an official website - and to overcome communication problems, since the brewery has banned all their pubs from owning/ running websites - which were normally done to help support their clientèle, and the brewery's business.
Ultimately, the website and its members, support the brewery and it's produce, and Public Houses - but are very concerned about the shift in governing policy exercised by Humphrey Smith, which has seemed to cause a steady increase in problems for staff and customers alike! Mr Smith (who avoids publicity, and commentary at all times) has made his viewpoint very clear in a circular (which we have seen an original) with regards to his customers - the is not bothered or concerned about what they may like or dislike. It is alleged that he has suggested; that as long as the beer is good, and the price is cheap, he will always have customers - dispite however long it takes to get served, or what the pub and surroundings is like, or has to offer. A very big departure from the usual market concerns for customers from his competition.
Ultimately, the website and its members, support the brewery and it's produce, and Public Houses - but are very concerned about the shift in governing policy exercised by Humphrey Smith, which has seemed to cause a steady increase in problems for staff and customers alike! Mr Smith (who avoids publicity, and commentary at all times) has made his viewpoint very clear in a circular (which we have seen an original) with regards to his customers - the is not bothered or concerned about what they may like or dislike. It is alleged that he has suggested; that as long as the beer is good, and the price is cheap, he will always have customers - dispite however long it takes to get served, or what the pub and surroundings is like, or has to offer. A very big departure from the usual market concerns for customers from his competition.
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His behaviour has actually done his competitors like Heineken and Coors a massive financial favour. THINK ABOUT THIS.... When management from these two other breweries along with their staff purposely go into Sam's Smith's pubs (where they know Humphrey is patrolling) to swear and use their phones in front of Humphrey knowing what his knee jerk reaction is then the outcome is obvious 😢 less Sam's pubs and beer equals higher sales for the others. His competition actually love him!!!!!
Sam Smith’s is a mediocre beer, and and awful corporation
lol well shit - but I love the beer. I’ll exercise the Michael Jackson clause - where the product is so good that it excuses the disposable behavior of the producer.
He acts like he literally owns the town and its disgusting.
Safer than London..
Ok then
This really smacks of being nothing but a hit piece. I don't give a shit. I'll continue to enjoy Nut Brown Ale, Organic Pale Ale, and Organic Chocolate Stout: three of my favorite beers.
Known this family for years, only thing that could keep humph and Oliver in order was their mother. Pair of them are daft to their bones.
He is doing a great job. Too bad small minded idiots can't appreciate not having farm land developed, American Globalization, mass immigration, and degeneracy. Tadcaster looks lovely. The idiotic locals should be thankful to have a man of vision and money. Stupid global homo hit job piece. Samuel Smith's support local and organic agriculture. The mush brained locals look really dumb and ungrateful here
The battle of Towton took place during the Wars of the Roses.
I was going to say it's civil war era, having been taught that at Tad Grammar, but no, I'd be wrong. It was in fact during the Wars of the Roses.
Bunch of inbred tossers. Roll on the revolution.
I’ve just been running a pub in tadcaster. Decided I’d had enough of being treated like a piece of dirt on the bottom of Humphrey’s green welly!!! No regrets at all about upping and leaving all within a day going to the brewery on Monday to tell him to his face that I aren’t running his pub anymore. Me and my partner worked 11-11 7 days a week without any rest. Most disgusting company I’ve ever worked for
I’m sorry you had to endure such a nightmarish situation.
I was enjoying a Nut Brown Ale over here in New England, USA where Samuel Smith's is widely available at sophisticated beer retailers. Decided to look on UA-cam for more information on the history and brand. Wasn't expecting to find this sad story of a tyrannical overlord. Not sure I'll purchase this ale again with so many other breweries trying to make a positive impact in their communities. It's too bad really, the ale is quite excellent.
Good for you, and nice to hear an opinion from across the pond. He is the living embodiment of Mr Burns from the Simpsons
"sophisticated beer retailers"...🤣🤣🤣
Not drinking this beer again. It was my favorite. Not going to support this business because they doesn't care a rats ass about other people, this type of business are destined to fall...
Hopefully the next generation to run that brewery has humility and sense
The company will be better off when he pops his clogs, and a lot happier for it. He’s a total meglamaniac
How to ruin a business 101
Ban phones and put prices up = lost all customers to Wetherspoons. Properly dumb move. His pubs are dead now and will not recover unless he reverses these decisions.
What a rotten borough.
That strawberry ale is beast, unless you want to prove me wrong and give me the recipe, its still the best
Too much sugar
Basically strawberry Fanta
Beer is still damn good,
Not very clear.......from the BBC....what a surprise! Who owns the land? The Hutchinsons or Sam Smith's? If it's the Hutchinsons then they've been wronged. If Smiths own it.....fair play.
Seems like a hit job by the city council that is pissed off they can't control the brewery that owns the land in question. In 2016 there was a flood and the council wanted to build a 500 thousand pound temporary bridge on Tadcaster property at taxpayer expense. Samuel Smith's rejected the building of the bridge on their land because it would be a waste of taxpayer money and other crossing were available. Samuel Smiths thought the taxpayers should not be charged because of city council's failure to maintain the bridge in question.
Yes indeed, the BBC and no doubt "councils" of globalism's best knobs and foreigners are the problem. I would like to hear supporters of Sammy Smith's arguments against these allegations. "Democracy" is a joke because it always appeals to the lowest common denominator. But if they're true, the Smith family needs to start doing what's best for the city and be a real leader instead of a parasite, and history tells that is a fine line that can easily be crossed.
I disagree but too many old breweries are having to move production
You are obviously not from Yorkshire, because your version has more holes that a sieve, Humphrey Smith the man behind the brewery thinks he's living in feudal times & tries to control everything not just the pubs & staff, but everything else, he is a monster.
I’m literally drinking their organic chocolate stout while reading this and I already bought two of the 1pt. This will be my last I cannot support this Debacle
Humphrey Smith, Oxton Hall, Oxton Ln, Oxton, Tadcaster. LS24 8DX. 01937 832225 Any problems just call or write.
I need extra money without getting in trouble
Go on the beat
I'm bored and broke
I'm going to find a way of using democratic power to remove all of his power from Tadcaster and the surrounding regions. Mark my words.
A thoroughgoing bastard who closed a pub in Droitwich because he heard a punter use "the F word", leaving the tenants penniless and unemployed.
He is an absolute bastard as you said, a petty vindictive small minded tyrant, who thinks he's higher than God, he should be sectioned, his pubs are disgusting old fashioned toilets, usually dirty, & the buildings look as if they haven't had any money spent on them since the day they were built, the world needs to know about this vile man, & how ridiculous he is.
I love love love the beer and i follow where i can buy micros yearly here in the state and i am just now seeing this? How can someone treat their workers this way? Britain is NOT a fucking monarchy any more, these oligarchs need to get with the times . They aren’t even petty bourgeois. They are straight up bourgeoisie. I cannot believe this, i just bought a gift box for my brother today
You are American?
From South Africa... I would not piss in the same toilet as Humphrey Smith. The world will be a better place without him. Who the f**k does he think he is??? In person he is a dirty man with that jacket that sticks on him. He has NO HONOUR or manners. I will buy a ticket and attend his wake with loud song and dance. I lasted two days as a manager of one of his pubs in Rochester.
It looks like SS have nobbled a website that has been critical of the SS policies and treatment of people and staff. 'samsmiths.info' ; H. smith has been trying legally and illegally for some time past.Would anyone who knows why the forums on said website have apparently been taken down or hacked, please post here. There were plenty of regular users who must be as fed up as I am over this.
Was thinking the same, no info of whyt Samsmithsinfo was shut down.
I emailed the folks a while ago and again today. I don't expect a reply as if Smith has had it taken out, he'll have ambushed the emails to them as well. What a cup of C.U.N.tea!
Normally on any forum that is shutting you would recieve an email informing members ,it's just polite.
3m 2s Battle of Towton. The numpty presenter says English Civil War...Roses. Shocking slip up of facts. Baaaad BBC!
Battle of Towton March 29th 1461, 28,000 dead, according to many historians. How could the Beeb not know this? Horrified by the treatment of the Hutchinsons and the many pub employees. I came across this video whilst researching into Nun Appleton Priory - owned by Humphrey Smith, house and land all fenced off and allowed to go into an appalling state of repair. If anyone is close to the battlefield site, visit the Crooked Billet pub, lovely place and fantastic Yorkshire puddings, pretty sure it's not a Sam Smiths pub!
@@flickfi soon enough once lockdown eases hopefully!
I worked at one of their pubs and they were terrible to work for, they didn't care about the staff and ignored us when they came in. When I tried to make a complaint about our manager who regularly threatened to fire us as some reverse psychology motivator among other things I found it wasn't possible to contact them to do so.
Tried to complain about a Peterborough pub, rang them 17 times over a 3 week period, always just went through to a voicemail, left messages but they didn't ever call me back. So I asked the secretary to ask, but the complaints woman still never called me back. I wrote to them. Nothing, no response. These people just don't care.
Took my wife for dinner, after the meal decided to pop into Sam Smith pub. Had a glass of wine and pint for me. The glass had lipstick on it, when I asked to have the glass changed, I was asked to leave!!! Shameful set of pubs.
Looks as if his "preservation" is working. Give it a few decades and much of the town will be a stage set. Land monopolists are not my cup of tea. People need to walk away from a bad deal. He must have secret connections to prevail (old boy network). A bit of Henry George would not come amiss
I'm just looking for a decent organic beer...
I live in OKC ,and Samuel Smith's is my favorite. May not be a supporter now.
Vexacious litigants can be stopped
Sam Smiths pubs are nice and quiet as they don't allow any music so you can have a nice conversation, they have coal fires which are very welcome on a Winters day and most important of all the beer is great so who cares if the owner is a mardy old git not me.
I care if a landlord can be fired for serving me a full pint (yes, he has fired them for insufficient layers if foam at the top).
What..you’ve found one that’s open!!!
@@joepeake8972 What is a full pint?
@@oscarosullivan4513 660 millilitres where half of that isn't just foam
@@joepeake8972 So no head and spills if you try and take it to a table
He is that well liked if someone bumped him off the suspects would be everyone in tad
Tadcaster's bridge fell down in the recent floods, cutting the town in two, so people have to drive 10 miles to get from one half to the other or walk over a railway viaduct which is very inaccessible. Plans to put a temporary footbridge on Sir Humphrey's land to reconnect the town were refused by him as he said it was "a waste of taxpayers' money". He is probably one of the vilest men on the planet, with a long history of interfering legally in other peoples' lives to protect his own interests. Altruism is an unknown concept to him. He runs Tadcaster like a feudal kingdom from about 1100; if he had his way, there'd be a gibbet in the market place bearing the hanged body of a pub manager who'd served a too-full pint. But don't boycott his pubs - that only hurts his loyal, long suffering employees. He's so rich, he wouldn't be hurt if the entire brewery went bust.
Why don't the Hutchinson ignore the local dictator and get on with life.whats he going to do send his minders round. get a good scrap yard dog to keep them at bay
I really hate the man as much as anyone but in all fairness he actually said he’d allow the temporary bridge to be put there if only it had his white rose logo on it somewhere, they refused the logo so he refused the bridge.
Take the beer. Burn the place down.
After weighing my options on whether I can morally continue to drink Sammy Smith, I have come to this conclusion. Although the Owner is a bit of a prick, his Stout is so damn good that I cannot in good conscious boycot the beer. I have found the perfect stout for my pallet and that is worth it's weight in gold! I raise a pint to you good sir for making my favorite beer on the planet. It is not so easy to find it here in California. The owner of my local liquor store had to special order a case for me. I waited a month for delivery. If you have never tried this beer you have not lived my friend. Cheers!
To be honest out of all the bad brewery owners he is the least worst
I live in Tadcaster and I tell you this its a shit hole
I had hoped that the greatest dark-ale brewers in the world would be nice people...
Modes9 worst person ever Humphrey Smith
Greatest dark ale?? You're having a laugh. It's always been cheap shit.
i used to love sam smith imperial stout and oatmeal stout. honestly i will never drink it again. not after seeing how this guy treats people.
Don't forget the source
sucks to hear all this as I am due to attend a Merchant du Vin tasting this month
Black Humphrey has come to town & what about the 24 storey tower block opp ?
Hiya me and many others are working away at trying to stop it from happening as it won't serve the local community and it will only serve to further worsen the current housing crisis which I am one who has got left homeless with my little boy at the hands of Camden Council.The whole community has to come together now I think the message is out there since we had the public meeting at swiss cottage community centre but we need everyones input and full engagement we need people to commit themselves to fighting to stop this abhorrent building being built ON OUR PATCH.Essential Living take a hike we don't want your new age tower block which will turn the market into a wind tunnel and steal the sunlight from the surrounding residents so they would only get 3 months of sunlight out of 12,further more the proposal is very dangerous as the buildings density would be double that of the legal limit,Hello Essential Living are you all a bunch of brain dead zombies are you trying to kill everyone in the underground you want to build a building double the legal density on hollow ground? What's wrong with you and by the way the secret is out yes we know essential living are tied to Solgarium and the Kier Group companies and there is a trade off agreement with TFL for regeneration of the underground stations as always I wont go away and shut up people please we urge you to come to meetings held most fridays at the community cafe 10:30 we need you now we have to do a march and demo to show the town hall we mean business and that we will go to war on this we have to do this before essential living have their planning committee meeting at the end of july.People if you care about your area then please help protect it this building if it were to happen would rob us of the only green space left in the immediate area and for anyone who doesn't know swiss cottage crossing is the most polluted crossing in the borough of camden the green space is the only thing stopping the pollution from being an immediate killer,but however the pollution is killing our community slowly and quietly it's been going on for a while but camden like to try to keep it quiet.
Things are badly awry at The Swiss Cottage Tavern, Sam Smiths flagship north London pub. No laughing matter you might say & you'd be dead right. Short measures are being served as a matter of course on all their draught pints. The glasses used in the pub when brimful do contain a measured pint. However,brimful glasses are never served there. Regulars have been aware of this scam for years but when i was recently handed a slopping, yet 2 inch short measure of Old Brewery, I asked for a top-up from the sullen tall young barman & was to my amazement refused. But i insisted . The 'acting' Manager appeared on the scene & to give him his due,he did top -up my pint immediately, but as I was retreating outside with it. the barman ,not the manager, yelled at me, that I was barred. To continue the vague maritime metaphors of this posting I decided in future to give this place a wide berth in future. But I did decided to look into the strange goings-on at The Swiss Cottage Tavern. involving zero hour contracts?/ squalid tythed staff accomodation/ & the real meaning of the green swastika scrawled on the side wall of the Swiss Cottage Odeon outside the S.C. Tavern staff quarters..............but that's for another poste
I am very disappointed in mr.smiths treatment of people and workers what a shame. I enjoyed nut brown ale until I saw this vid. One bomber left in the fridge and there will be NO more purchased by me. I am done. Best of luck to all of the people who have suffered because of that bastard. 1 less customer.