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I think these bikes are all that most people “need”. I do wish Marin would improve a couple of the factory components on their entry level bikes - better wheels and better cranks. I had a 2018 pine mountain that I loved. I put sunringle duroc 40 wheels on it. I had a 2022 four corners but sold it to buy the 2024 model with the extra mount options, but I liked the 2022 green color better. I haven’t tried the Nicasio, but The four corners works so well as a do-it all bike. You can commute with it, ride to get a coffee, explore off-road or gravel routes, or use it for touring and bikepacking. It’s comfortable and strong, and very versatile. I think the biggest con is the low-end factory wheels that aren’t tubeless ready. I don’t mind quick release at all. I'm also a retro grouch and am more than happy with the TRP Spyres. I had them on my previous 4c and my Raleigh Willard 3.

The fact that he keeps making little mistakes made me enjoy the video even more. Thanks for all the info!

no bad semi slick tires up to 50c

This was a fantastic run through!👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇸🇪🇹🇹

Extremely useful and helpful!

About to buy this bike bag 😊. Does this new bike "Mount" interfere with removing the handle bars? I take my touring bikes on airplanes, so I am transporting via bike box where I removed handle bars and reassembled the bike in the airport, before riding away. Do I need to worry about also fiddling with the new bag mount as well? (mount cables etc)

You guys are so good at explaining things! What about the Surly Corner bars as a way to convert flat bars into pseudo-drop bar without having to change shifters etc.?

OK the on-screen text comments are hilarious :)

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I just purchased a pair of Ortlieb Back-Roller Plus 40 Liter Pannier Bags w/ Quick Lock 2.1 for my Gravel Bike to go Bike Packing. (Spring/Summer 2025 South of Lake Tahoe) I’m hanging them off a Divide Rack from Old Man Mountain. Your video just taught me that the lower hook should engage the vertical post of the rack. (~11:00 Minute Mark) I have mine pointed straight down and will reevaluate their orientation now that I’ve seen your video. THANK YOU! Side note…I did slide the shims in sideways vs. the brute force straight inward…only because I saw the little notch to orient the shims. Have a Happy New Year!

I’ve been a bit overwhelmed by all of Ortliebs bags but this video really helped. Thanks so much for putting this together, you rock!!!

I could use a surly touring bike

How tall are you? What size are you Riding??

How about some of the options that come with some of the bags (anti theft cables or anti abrasion) ?

El mejor medidor de cadena. Simple y eficaz.

Hi Veronica and Owen! Fantastic videos on hot topics! Here are a few ideas on how cyclists can prep for this March, to influence both politicians and everyday drivers who oppose the Bloor bike lanes and bike lanes on the busiest streets. Both sides fight over the busiest streets. Cyclists want bike lanes for safety and the busier the street, the more effective they are. Drivers oppose bike lanes citing congestion for cars, again, the busier the street, the more harm they see being done. So what can we do now before March 2025 to win drivers to endorsing bike lanes? A twist to DIVIDE AND CONQUER. Marshall Rosenberg talks about how we create an “enemy image” when we are upset with an individual or a group. For people who oppose bike lanes, that means drivers see cyclists as a monolith to make it easier to hate us. The more we can break up this image, the easier it will be to overcome their hate. This means -limiting how many pro-bike lane campaigners are militant in our approach, -increasing our shows of empathy for their position, -and showing we not only ride bikes in winter, we are cheerful and friendly when we do. m.ua-cam.com/video/l7TONauJGfc/v-deo.html So the reference to divide and conquer means we divide our approaches towards drivers between militant and friendly without giving in. Militant It looks like a number of groups are militant. We fight for bike lanes. That’s good because people take us seriously. We had 3 events where we rode our bikes on Bloor into Etobicoke. Mild BEAT UP THE BIGGEST BULLY in the school yard... “kill” ‘em with kindness It looks like Mayor Olivia Chow has been using empathy and the Accusations Audit to calm Doug Ford and friends down. I heard Doug say he gets along great with her, that he wouldn’t be surprised if she stood beside him when they start removing the bike lanes. That is an indicator she shared a lot of understanding of his position without sharing her own. This approach comes from the book Never Split The Difference, by Chris Voss. He has a lot of videos which teach how to follow through on this with approaches to dealing with a bully without giving in. WIN OVER THE MODERATES “-push” the fence sitters off the fence This is discussed by Katherine Kehoe in the climate book Saving Us. A way to elaborate on this is to look at what people call MOTIVATIONAL INTERVIEWING. m.ua-cam.com/video/s3MCJZ7OGRk/v-deo.html This approach is opposite from your debating club arguments. You don’t present your case at all. You let the other side talk about both sides of an issue so they come over to your side on their own. It might sound like you take longer to change their mind but so often our reasoning and arguments fall on deaf ears. By letting them change their minds on their own, by us asking them questions it can be faster and create longer lasting change. It is used for creating change in alcoholics and drug addicts. But we can use it to win people over to support bike lanes. LEAD BY EXAMPLE We ride our bikes in winter, show drivers it can be done. Show them it can be fun. Show them people in Toronto do it. The simple act of riding a bike in winter can be a conversation starter for people we come across on the street or when we meet in a coffee shop. When we can: -Just ride. Just let people see us riding in winter. -Be cheerful and friendly. The saying you attract more flies and bees with honey applies even in winter. :)

To get a good perspective on why pedestrians and cyclists are so unsafe on our roads, you should check out the book Killed By a Traffic Engineer by Wes Marshall.

Extremely helpful. Thanks!

Good review! Been riding this bike for over 2 years now & I absolutely love it, such a fun and no nonsense bike! I love the one by because I hate cleaning a 2x

I have been wondering about how to bring garden soil to my house via bicycle and this may fit the bill! Thank you for sharing

Great explanation. Im looking for some new urban back rollers in 25. do you know if they will do 2.2 on the entire range all at once or?

Reminds me of ua-cam.com/video/PmXnaX-5d8g/v-deo.htmlsi=cuskeOgk5CcNXhjg

I’ve got a trek fx from 2019 and a specialized allez from 2021. My fx is my pride and joy workhorse but sometimes I wish it was a bit lighter and smoother rolling. I’ll be looking for a Fairfax 3 soon enough, I want versatility *and* speed

I needed a second bicycle for my Mums place instead of packing up and flying with a bike when I visit her. This ticks all the boxes. I think for a lot of people this would be a great start and may even be all they ever need.

Thanks for the video! Thinking about picking up the Short Haul from you guys this late winter/spring. I like the Yuba but my space to store is just a little too short for the length of it. Question about the Tern; do the smaller wheels make for a bumpier ride? I'll be adding a yepp mini seat and our Toronto roads in the Spring aren't always spectacular. And do the small wheels make for a noticably slower/less efficient ride? Just thinking about the trips on the longer end of the bike's intended use and if I'll be wishing I was on something with bigger wheels

very informative! Thank you!

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I like the Brooks Flyer saddle the best especially on bikes that do not have any suspension...

I love my ‘13 LHT. Perfect for commuting and touring. I would say it is one of the most versatile bikes on the market.

I have had several Marin’s and a bit of a love-hate relationship with them. Mostly due to quality control issues. I had a 2018 Marin Pine Mountain that was close to being a perfect bike in my mind. I think the Bridge Club is very similar to that. I also had a 2023 Larkspur, similar in geo to the 2018 Pine Mountain I had, except it had their “mixte” frame design. It was cool but had entry level parts and the frame design limits space for frame bags or bottles. I also had a 2022 or 2023 Four Corners that I sold to fund the purchase of the new four corners. I wanted it due to the extra mountain points, mainly for the bolt on top tube bag. This bike kicks ass for the price. Sora 3x9 isn’t my first choice but it’s solid and the TRP Spyre are a cool brake. I actually prefer a quality cable brake for this type of bike. The low end wheels really hold the bike back. I wish it came with tubeless compatible rims, even if they just used entry level wtb ones. I love this bike ALMOST as much as I loved my rigid 2018 PM. I ended up buying the 2023 Pine Mountain and it wasn’t the same experience. I also had some issues out of the box with rust under the paint around the head tube and under the frame. Marin gave me $100 back on the bike but it was still frustrating. I had some imperfections in the paint on my new 4C as well, like fiber and some other debris in the paint. Both pine mountains had issues with the braze ons. The ones on the seat tube for the bottle cage on my 2023 were offset to the non drive side and the 2018 had issues with the ones on the seat stays being uneven. The larkspur had a crooked fork but I couldn’t warranty it out because they didn’t have any blue forks available at the time, so I rode it as-is. If they could get some of those things cleaned up, and put a bit better components on the bike, I think that they’d be a top contender for bikes under the $1,500/$2,000 range. I got my Four Corners for like $950+ tax. If it was $1,100-$1,200 with better wheels and a more off-road ready drivetrain, it would be nearly perfect. Still, my experience riding my 2018 PM when I had my build complete was the best time I’ve ever had on a bike, and the four corners comes close. My Bianchi Lupo, Raleigh Willard 3, and Jamis Dragonslayer would all put up a good fight for 2nd place, though, and were arguably better bikes in general.

Arkel has a better mounting system. World travellers would disagree with you about the bungee (extremely cheap and easy to replace). Arkel (a Canadian company) uses metal parts that dont degrade like plastic.

Nice video. Can the Fargo take a flat handle bar or would you recommend another bike if one wanted to go in that direction?

QR wheels are a dealbreaker for me. There's nothing wrong with them, but they are becoming obsolete. I can't see investing in a new bike with old standards.

I guess you pay a price for that extra loading capacity in the kombi when you have to carry the additional 10 kg uphill

Would this (Fargo) feel worlds different compared to a Warbird?

1. Since the Quick Hitch doesn't require special tools like an Allen Key or even a screwdriver to remove, I'd detach it from my bike and take it with me to prevent theft. 2. If there's a problem with the tubes, I'd like some way to get replacements. If the company goes bankrupt for whatever reason, there's no customer service, so I'd like to know if it's possible to purchase generic tubes for those tires. 3. If the price point were in the $100-$200 range in Canadian, I'd buy it no problem along with the accessories. Its simple design allows for less materials to be used in its construction. Therefore, it shouldn't be as expensive as traditional bike trailers that uses more materials in their construction. 4. A major turnoff for bike trailers is that they're bulky and can't easily detach from a bike unless you have the tools. The travoy is the ideal shopping accessory design that people would think of when they think "bicycle shopping cart". I believe that the reason why traditional bike trailers are in the hundreds is because they're very unpopular, so they would have to have a high profit margin to compensate for poor sales even if the materials are cheap. The travoy is different because the nature of its design makes it near identical to a regular shopping cart that "just so happens" to attach to a bicycle. This would allow it to make way more sales even with a lower profit margin. In fact, if the manufacturer can lower the price and accept a lower profit margin, it WOULD generate more sales because THOUSANDS of people own bikes now compared to a few years ago and they would love to own this.

10 kg diff doesn't mean much is that bike also weighs 10 kg more =) Would have been good to know their respective weights. Very informative video though =)

I only weigh 120 lbs and it was taking me forever to break in my B17. Then I DECREASED the tension in the saddle and it was instantly comfortable. If you are a light rider having trouble breaking in your Brooks, its worth a try.

What a great review, thank you!

This video was great. Ortlieb needs fix their dang names 😂

Fantastic presentation, just what I needed. Thank you so much.

Can you explain to everyone why you are saying that the brooks 17 narrow is overly narrow for you but you go on to say that the swift is one of your all time favorite saddles when in fact it is more narrow then the b17 narrow seat?

Nice, the current STI technology is so good, the bar end shifter could be replaced

Great video, very well done. Love my LHT. Prefer rim brakes but other than that, not a lot has changed. The difference with all the upgrades available isn't that much different. It's not the lightest bike but is a solid platform. Highly recommend a Brooks B-66 spring seat and a dampened steering stem (Kinekt) which does wonders for comfort. It's Swiss Army Knife of bicycles

The road locomotives look like the mechanical equivalent of riding a bull. Which is funny because people ride mechanical bulls.... Devil's advocate on the SUV driving to go mountain biking. Outside of large cities with extensive transit, owning a car/using a car to get to the trailhead is normal. Mostly because riding in your highest gear and wearing down your soft trail tires is a waste of the components. So the marketing is just targeting people who do that kind of riding. Overall in my opinion the solution to large city car issues is trains and walkable/ridable access to trains. Improving dedicated bike access to GO stations etc

Do you know how much this weight? No where I can’t find any of this info online. Thanks

Agreed. It can also boil down to a nuisance trying to pass earphone cyclists on narrow paths. No way to warn or communicate with them. Let alone the dangers in public areas. This should also be taken into account by pedestrians as well.

Ive found it's safer to jay walk then try and cross at signal

Loved the discussion. Id love someone to talk about the distance arguments. A 6 mile bike ride for me but drivers I know see traveling anything more than across a sidewalk from a to the building as a burden. These people this cannot help but see us wasting valuable road space doing something completely unnecessary.

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