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Dougo of the Cave Clan on 3000 Podcast
Get a taste of Dougo's chat with Maloney on the 3000 Podcast. Link to the full episode & Subscriber link at end of clip.
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Melbourne's Secret Underground World.
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Today. Channel 9. 25/3/23. They used 4 or 5 snippets of my clips (which I'm fine with) so hopefully they return the favour. #caveclan #urbex #media
A Message to all Cave Clan Media Subscribers
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Give it a listen when you've got a spare 3 minutes.
Police Pester 25 Drain Explorers in a Melbourne drain
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I've added a few corrections. This is from 2 years ago.
Cave Clan gets a mention on SBS' Inside Central Station
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Watch Inside Central Station on SBS on Demand - it's an awesome series.
Cave Clan on iView. All 5 parts in one
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When a group of Melbourne teenagers started exploring caves, mines and drains together in the '80s, they inadvertently discovered an underground world that would unite a community and inspire creativity amongst its members. #caveclan #media #urbex
Underground Shafters of Corwall. Andrew Kingsly-Tubbs
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Found this on an old tape. Sorry about the poor VHS quality.
Cave Clan 3PBS. 1989
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Not one of the best interviews the Cave Clan did, but different to the others none the less.
Cave Clan on 3CR 1990
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Cobra, Doug, Dunit, Rusco, Wes & Woody chat to 3CR about the Cave Clan.
Tim L talks to Gilligan and Dougo at the Clannies
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Tim L talks to Gilligan and Dougo at the Clannies
Cave Clan on Rack Your Brains 3RRR 1990
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Mosh & Rusco phone in to have a whine about the Ninja Turtles
Cave Clan on 3RRRs GroundUp 1991
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Matt & Doug talk to 3RRR about, for a change, Cave Clan and going in drains.
Sydney Cave Clan on Triple J 2001
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Featuring Dirge, Doc, Ogre, Oriface, Siologen, Trioxide and Tyr.
Doug and Edgar on 3RRRs Itchy Feet 1991 Cave Clan
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Doug and Edgar on 3RRRs Itchy Feet 1991 Cave Clan
Cave Clan on ABC702 Feb2017
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Doug from the Cave Clan speaks with ABC in Sydney about the Tim Stone's Cave Clan documentary on iView
Tim Stone and Doug on ABC 774 Feb 2017
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Tim Stone and Doug on ABC 774 Feb 2017
Tim Stone on 3RRR Cave Clan on iView
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Tim Stone on 3RRR Cave Clan on iView
Cave Clan Interview with Viva Cool City Pt2 2009
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Cave Clan Interview with Viva Cool City Pt2 2009
Cave Clan Interview with Viva Cool City Pt1 2009
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Cave Clan Interview with Viva Cool City Pt1 2009
Part 2 of Andrew Dodd Interview with on Street Stories Cave Clan 2003
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Part 2 of Andrew Dodd Interview with on Street Stories Cave Clan 2003
Part 1 of Andrew Dodd Interview with on Street Stories Cave Clan 2003
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Part 1 of Andrew Dodd Interview with on Street Stories Cave Clan 2003
Random clip about drugs and drains or some shit
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Random clip about drugs and drains or some shit
Litter in Melbourne drains 1980s
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Litter in Melbourne drains 1980s
Predator & Oriface on Radio National 2003
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Predator & Oriface on Radio National 2003
Matt Netthiem interviews the Cave Clan in 2000
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Matt Netthiem interviews the Cave Clan in 2000
Cave Clan interview on 3AW - 2000
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Cave Clan interview on 3AW - 2000
Cave Clan Radio Interview on 2BL from 2000
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Cave Clan Radio Interview on 2BL from 2000
Cave Clan English Radio Interview 2001
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Cave Clan English Radio Interview 2001
under Brisbane -channel 9- Malcom Burt
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under Brisbane -channel 9- Malcom Burt
This is what lies under Brisbane - Malcom Burt
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This is what lies under Brisbane - Malcom Burt

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  • @jeremyashford2145
    @jeremyashford2145 3 місяці тому

    sounds like a mud flood cover up story

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 2 місяці тому

      Sounds like, but not

    • @jeremyashford2145
      @jeremyashford2145 2 місяці тому

      I'm not a mudder myself, but have been amused by their nonsense. Some of the reconstruction drawings are amazing. I though they might latch on to a story like this.

  • @joereedsmith1531
    @joereedsmith1531 3 місяці тому

    The first one is just an early water main you are looking at a blank end. There are miles of wooden water pipes under sth melb sth yarra all the inner city areas. There are many tunnels used for electricity cables and phone cables in the city and so on that are large enough to walk in and many crib rooms attached. As a City Melbourne was one of the first to be Electrified and all the high voltage cables are underground in these tunnels. They follow the footpaths and roads so to avoid foundations. Most are only 10 feet below the surface. Theres a "tunnel" between both Myers stores under Bourke Street it used to be used by shoppers I suppose now its used as storage.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 2 місяці тому

      True, there's a lot under Melbourne

  • @robvegas9354
    @robvegas9354 4 місяці тому

    Back in the 80s where i grew up you could follow this wild underground tunnel at blind creek from the east to the west underneath Knox City shops. it was sketchy as doing that mission especially when the council blocked off the end near the skateboard park and you had to walk all the way back

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 3 місяці тому

      I've been in the one under Knox. It used to have the room with the grilled roof.

  • @DwDiablo3
    @DwDiablo3 4 місяці тому

    instead of building that high rise. why not turn it into a tourist attraction in the city

  • @jungezhang6250
    @jungezhang6250 4 місяці тому

    That front cover photo is from central ballrat near office works or aldi

  • @judee.caulfield6386
    @judee.caulfield6386 4 місяці тому

    love the guy struggling not to laugh as he says "albury wodonga"

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 4 місяці тому

      Great, now I have to go and watch it again! 😀

  • @Hectik17
    @Hectik17 5 місяців тому

    are there any scans of il draino available anywhere pdf archives?

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 5 місяців тому

      Hi, in 2025 I'm going to do a limited reprint of the full set, but at this stage I have no intention of digitizing them.

    • @Hectik17
      @Hectik17 5 місяців тому

      cool any were i should keep a eyeout? when it happens will it be announced on this youtube channel? cheers@@CaveClanMedia

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 4 місяці тому

      Safest bet is ironfistdoug on Instagram or my main youtube channel (also ironfistdoug). Thanks for the interest 👍

  • @bartardo1
    @bartardo1 8 місяців тому

    20 people climbing out the drain while your on ya porch getting baked 😮😮😅😅😅

  • @FartingInYourGeneralDirection
    @FartingInYourGeneralDirection 10 місяців тому

    I remember finding a cave clan zine and map in the '50th' under Sunshine back in 1990. The map took us to a meet up in the city loop underbelly. Fun times

  • @ohjesswhatamess
    @ohjesswhatamess 10 місяців тому

    There are tunnels from the building Whitehouse is now located in that have been blocked off that lead to what is now southern cross station. I was always annoyed I never had a spare moment for some exploration. Wasn’t one of them turned into an art gallery of sorts?

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 10 місяців тому

      I've read your comment a few times, and it's got me stumped. I don't know the Whitehouse & I'm not sure about one of them being turned into a gallery, although that recently happened in Sydney 🤔

    • @ohjesswhatamess
      @ohjesswhatamess 10 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia Whitehouse is a University in the old GPO building. I just had a look to see if I could find the tunnel turned gallery but I think that may have been closed off again since starting those new tunnels. That one was closer to flinders street than southern cross/spencer st station.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 10 місяців тому

      So much crazy stuff under our cities 👍

  • @reecemartin453
    @reecemartin453 10 місяців тому

    dont tell jimsUrbex he'll make a stupid video of mole people

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 10 місяців тому

      One man's stupid is another man's art 🙏

  • @BearHilda
    @BearHilda 11 місяців тому

    Interesting subject but what is with all the awful music in the background? A good way to ruin a story.

  • @simonw9332
    @simonw9332 11 місяців тому

    So they didnt really show shit

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      They showed Eve near the end

  • @wiretamer5710
    @wiretamer5710 11 місяців тому

    The Cave Clan began in 1986? I did my HSC in 84 and I remember seeing 'The Cave Clan' Graffiti on Richmond station. BTW Does anyone remember about 1983 White brush painted Graffiti at East Richmond station: 'Blinky Bill Shall Rise'?

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, we started doing stuff in the summer of '85 / '86 then cane up with the name on Jan 26, 86. I don't remember the Blinky Bill stuff specifically, although I remember big white wash letters that spelt CINEMA5. I'm yet to find someone else that remembers it.

  • @adventurehuntersoz4202
    @adventurehuntersoz4202 11 місяців тому

    they picked a great backing track! Also, Anzac is mint, visited it recently and felt very welcome but humbled to be there all the same.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Yes indeed, it's a great spot 🙏

  • @riabeweeb1018
    @riabeweeb1018 11 місяців тому

    How does one join the clan?

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I replied to your other comment 👍

  • @riabeweeb1018
    @riabeweeb1018 11 місяців тому

    I wish I can join the cave clan, I just don’t know anybody to get in 😅

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I'm planning on making a video soon to give people some tips. If you don't follow my IronFistDoug UA-cam account, keep an eye on that and I'll hopefully have something out before summer. You need to over over 18.

    • @jazrad666
      @jazrad666 11 місяців тому

      Just hitup DOUG from the CC and tell him JAZ sent ya HaHa

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Doug's too far gone. I mean, he doesn't even do meth 😂

    • @jazrad666
      @jazrad666 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia Doug doesn't need meth as he's already off his CHOPS

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/r2SF8xUlPjs/v-deo.html

  • @TheBalkanSpy
    @TheBalkanSpy 11 місяців тому

    only in Australia will 200 year old something be considered artifact

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Although technically anything over 50 years old is an artifact. Jeez, I'm an artifact 😳😢

    • @TheBalkanSpy
      @TheBalkanSpy 11 місяців тому

      Hahahaha, soon enough I will be one as well @@CaveClanMedia

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Life begins at 50 (🐂💩 )

  • @Mothman308
    @Mothman308 11 місяців тому

    Catacombs under Adelaide too.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I thought that was a mole(man)hill.

    • @Mothman308
      @Mothman308 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia I entered them from the old RAH hospital. There's other networks too, apparently all pedo related.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Qanon rhubarb

  • @gaijininja
    @gaijininja 11 місяців тому

    It's sad. Indigenous Australia knows their history back to when they came to this land, while transported/migrant Australia has forgotten most of the 235 years since arrival.

  • @dylangarsed7254
    @dylangarsed7254 11 місяців тому

    History is definitely not what we're told........

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      And it also wasn't as exciting as conspiracy theorists would have you believe

    • @wiretamer5710
      @wiretamer5710 11 місяців тому

      No... Generally speeking, if you want to find out the truth, you have to do a LOT of reading.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I can save you reading about the first 100 years - they were brutal.

  • @evolveausevolveaus
    @evolveausevolveaus 11 місяців тому

    Caveclan, thats a name i haven't heard for a few years

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      It's still around, it's just gone... wait for it... underground 😄

    • @rowanb4395
      @rowanb4395 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia You probably should just see yourself out mate 😅or in, I'll leave the particulars up to you

  • @PBeringer
    @PBeringer 11 місяців тому

    This documentary blew my mind as a kid. I was obsessed with water and sewerage infrastructure and its history. The VHS tape that held it was very well worn. Weird kid ... I wish the full thing was available. But a massive thanks to you for this much!

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      No worries 👍Yeah, I don't know why I cropped bits out. I was a long time ago.

  • @Jim-ok9zi
    @Jim-ok9zi 11 місяців тому

    If I was the developer digging he foundations for that building, I would have just dug it up and taken it to landfill. And wouldn’t have said anything.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      But the artifacts are tens of thousands years old... if not millions 😳

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I was being silly, considering white people haven't even been in Melbourne for 200 years, so unless the artifacts were arrowheads, etc...

  • @bassedtaz
    @bassedtaz 11 місяців тому

    We used to call it the darkies. This was back in the day, I'm sure it would be racism to say that now ;)

  • @vicrigg9390
    @vicrigg9390 11 місяців тому

    Just keep the lie going mud flood and hiding true history.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I'm hearing you bruz! And the earth is flat, and the moon landing never happened, and don't get me started on our lizard overlords

  • @mikebennett3812
    @mikebennett3812 11 місяців тому

    A interesting story absolutely destroyed by a terrible narration - Pathetic!

  • @iamthatiam44444
    @iamthatiam44444 11 місяців тому

    Tunnels are world wide. Most secrets!

  • @everythingbearausphreak7370
    @everythingbearausphreak7370 11 місяців тому

    Love how the cave clan get all the promo here, what about Ausphreak and UrbexAU ....

  • @nate-tz8sx
    @nate-tz8sx 11 місяців тому

    This was total crap fuck you channel 9

  • @MrDefiance000
    @MrDefiance000 11 місяців тому

    Australians believe all kinds of crap. Lots and lots of dummies in Australia! Brainwashed boot lickers and nitwits that believe in legal fictions and silly fairy tales.

  • @bryceoconnor9640
    @bryceoconnor9640 11 місяців тому

    93 till

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      ?

    • @AaronStorey
      @AaronStorey 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia One of the songs used in this clip is called "93 Til' Infinity"

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Cheers. I'm old 😄

  • @keithdrower9120
    @keithdrower9120 11 місяців тому

    Put Peter Costello in it....... in chains......!

  • @GoonOfFortune
    @GoonOfFortune 11 місяців тому

    So much history here lol.. u think this is Europe or something?

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Are you making fun of our media? 😂

  • @RevMluxgladius
    @RevMluxgladius 11 місяців тому

    So this was all built by convicts with no tools or infrastructure. Right.

    • @IronFistDoug
      @IronFistDoug 11 місяців тому

      Melbourne wasn't settled by convicts

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      "Britain chose Australia as the site of a penal colony, and in 1787, the First Fleet of eleven convict ships set sail for Botany Bay, arriving on 20 January 1788 to found Sydney, New South Wales, the first European settlement on the continent. Other penal colonies were later established in Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) in 1803 and Queensland in 1824. Western Australia - established as Swan River Colony in 1829 - initially was intended solely for free settlers, but commenced receiving convicts in 1850. South Australia and Victoria, established in 1836 and 1850 respectively, officially remained free colonies."

  • @SirDaffyD
    @SirDaffyD 11 місяців тому

    There's also a tunnel system that runs under the roads of the CBD about 10M down that follows the roads of the CBD. They even have street signs says what street your under. They're used for Power, Comms & other utilities. I've worked in them, and parts of them are very old. You do need high security clearance to access them though.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      True. They actually built newer ones (concrete) when the redbrick ones became congested. They are all alarmed now to a rapid response security firm. It's also a federal offense under the telecommunications act to enter them without permission.

    • @SirDaffyD
      @SirDaffyD 11 місяців тому

      ​@@CaveClanMedia. Yes, when I was working down them, they were concrete, though the outer extremes I believe are still the old red brick. They were when I was working down there in the mid 90's. Story goes, that at the very end off the tunnel along Burke st leading to what is now Southern Cross Station, someone had gotten a skeleton and dressed it up with PMG overalls, gloves, boots, and a helmet, and left it against the very end wall as if a PMG worker had gotten lost & died down there. lol.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I haven't seen them since they upgraded the alarm system & the federal police warned us to stay out of them, but they've changed a lot since the 90s. Sydney has an amazing system too, but they were locked up and alarmed after a disgruntled ex-worker cut some cables (he avoided the emergency lines).

    • @TerminusEst1982
      @TerminusEst1982 10 місяців тому

      One can access them from beneath old Spencer Station, which still exists as a structure.

    • @DwDiablo3
      @DwDiablo3 4 місяці тому

      @@CaveClanMedia would be great to be able to have a guided tour of some sort

  • @Darrengriffiths3197
    @Darrengriffiths3197 11 місяців тому

    Where's that tunnel that cars are driving down is it Melbourne or Sydney

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Melbourne

    • @Darrengriffiths3197
      @Darrengriffiths3197 11 місяців тому

      @CaveClanMedia in city I've been down Anzac I've never been under that one Elizabeth St or other one he's talking about just basic one 130 step 150 step the 50th and deepark kings Park and few others 69th was flooded when I tried and the hands in western suburbs

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      @@Darrengriffiths3197 There are a lot of good ones out there. I wonder if Predator's Approach Doc is still available on the net 🤔

    • @Darrengriffiths3197
      @Darrengriffiths3197 11 місяців тому

      @CaveClanMedia I don't know buddy I got my list over 20 yrs ago P.O box in Collingwood or something like that and the preditor I remember seeing that with FELON MISFIT ALIEN or ALLEN and a guy called WOODY who f@#ks cats 😆 I'm old school don't use the net much if that's what your referring to

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      @@Darrengriffiths3197 Poor old Woody. So we chat anywhere else?

  • @silentjellybean
    @silentjellybean 11 місяців тому

    the 'news' clips keep saying about deadly deadly in Melb's drains, have there been any such issues in Melbourne. (my favourrite, and ony one I've been in decades ago is the Yarra entrance through to River Street)

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      There's been a few near misses & Brian McHugh got washed out if a drain in Thornbury & drowned. A fireman also drowned in a drain during rescue training in the 70s.

  • @Davidbrompton58
    @Davidbrompton58 11 місяців тому

    Theres a tunnel from india to Melbourne.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Kind of. It goes via L.A.

    • @Davidbrompton58
      @Davidbrompton58 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia and sudan.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Ah ok, I wasn't sure if they'd built that section yet.

    • @allanilett1215
      @allanilett1215 11 місяців тому

      Are you being silly? a tunnel from India to Melbourne? What?

    • @Davidbrompton58
      @Davidbrompton58 11 місяців тому

      @@allanilett1215hot and long!

  • @aapi1253
    @aapi1253 11 місяців тому

    what a shit story theres 1200 km of tunnels

  • @garynewton1263
    @garynewton1263 11 місяців тому

    Its growse, go the Vics! 😉✌️

  • @rad1930
    @rad1930 11 місяців тому

    I have heard rumours of child trafficking in the underground tunnels of Melbourne for many years, I didn’t think much of it but now seeing this on the news, it makes me wonder.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Qanon rumors. If you were going to traffic children, then using trucks would be easier than tunnels that regularly flood or are regularly used by service people. Cave Clan and hundreds of other people have been exploring under Australian cities & never seen a single sign. The usual Qanon cultists' response to me saying this is to say that I/we are all in on it. That's generally how you know a conspiracy theory is garbage - when it requires thousands of people, in this case, to cover up for evil traffickers of children.

  • @garynewton1263
    @garynewton1263 11 місяців тому

    Its Growse. Go the Vics! 😉✌️

  • @debbieanne7962
    @debbieanne7962 11 місяців тому

    In the late 60s and 70s my friends and I would go down the 'darkies' storm water drains in Melbourne. After a couple of firemen died in them they were all sealed up 😢

  • @garynewton1263
    @garynewton1263 11 місяців тому

    Underground Ghost Train? Where is it? One thing I do know is there is an unfinished railway station below Tullamarine Airport, built around 1970.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I've heard about the railway station under the airport. I haven't seen a photo yet 🤔

    • @garynewton1263
      @garynewton1263 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia There are photos of it. There were two platforms built and they are still intact underneath.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      I hope it's there. The last I heard it was an urban myth. They'd probably need to start from scratch if they decided to ever use it as it'd be about 50 years old now.

    • @MooKau_
      @MooKau_ 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia Well im sure if anyone can get in and have a sticky beak, itll be you Doug ;)

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      That sounds like a challenge. Fast forward two weeks: man arrested trying to enter restricted basement at Tullamarine Airport 😂

  • @vernonwhite4660
    @vernonwhite4660 11 місяців тому

    Interesting tunnels from 15 William st the old SEC building

  • @melvinleong3731
    @melvinleong3731 11 місяців тому

    love how they put house music ... no idea

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 11 місяців тому

    Stupid loud music to appease millennial audiences 😩

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      Yes, they should have smart music to appease GenX 🤟😃🤙

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia How about no music, I'm Gen X, I can handle a silent background.

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      @edwardfletcher7790 Argh, ok. You think the video is mine. This channel is a collection of media interviews with Cave Clan.

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 11 місяців тому

      @@CaveClanMedia Umm I know that mate, I was an Adelaide Clan member, I'm complaining about the stupid TV station 😂

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      @edwardfletcher7790 ha. In that case I agree 100% with you 😀

  • @davidchase9424
    @davidchase9424 11 місяців тому

    They filled it in or the "mud flood" filled it in?

    • @CaveClanMedia
      @CaveClanMedia 11 місяців тому

      The Mud Flood happened when the earth was still round.

    • @albertsaffron7582
      @albertsaffron7582 11 місяців тому

      Tartaran?

    • @davidchase9424
      @davidchase9424 11 місяців тому

      ​@@albertsaffron7582Maybe. Definitely a past Era. I think there was a global cataclysm, or a nuclear war, and we are rebuilding on the over the graves of once mighty, and advanced, civilizations.

  • @monogramadikt5971
    @monogramadikt5971 11 місяців тому

    if it wasnt for the cave clan i would not be the dedicated alcoholic i am these days, i will be forever indebted