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Gary Orner
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Why Reflowing Playstation 3 does not work
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Why Reflowing Playstation 3 does not work
Nvidia fumbled the material choices for all the chips from this time and they all failed if they were run over 70c and they got sued, ps3 just was not included because it wasnt directly from nvidia. Somehow sonyponys didnt connect the dots until recently.
Try to read SYSCON ERRLOG and if is 1001 or 1002 try to remplace the NEC/TOKIN 0E128 for tantalum capacitors
I did a reflow on my fat PS3 back in the day. I had very little experience with fixing electronics but had nothing to lose trying a repair so followed a step by step guide on youtube armed with a decorators heat gun and thermal paste. To my amazement the repair worked and I got a good few months out of my PS3. I could have got more out of it but eventually picked up a slim model because I was always worried the original would fail again at any moment.
how about an unit that stopped working after delinding the RSX? It works over again after a couple of minutes when the PS3 gets warm enough like nothing had happened. I think one or more balling cracked due to the force of getting out the lid... In this case the chip might be intact, there is just a need to resold a ball or two, right? My reflow might fix it permanently, isn't it?
"how much more are the backwards compatible ps3s really worth?" *Years later when you can buy a slim for $60, a super slim for $40 or backwards compatible for up to $200+* lol that didn't age well
Look at the price of them now
Could have been a 30 second video. Not interested in your gun tip or the other irrelevant stuff.
How do i get my data back? Dead ps3 slim. As far as i know, data will get erased if not read by anything byt the ps3 the hdd was connected to.
You can't, and never could. The entire disk is encrypted using keys that are only on the original PS3. This is pretty basic knowledge and the fact that person who made the video claims the opposite, says a lot about how much of this video you should take onboard.
Ive got a bc 60gb that has been sitting for awhile.. the ylod is only going to get worse and worse for these old consoles… wish there was a fool proof way to actually fix these
Search the ‘Frankenstein Mod’ for PS3s, Lets you swap the old faulty 90nm GPUs(RSX) for a better later model 65nm or 40nm GPU from Ps3 Slims and Super Slims.
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Reflowing is only a temporary fix at most. A bandaid. PS3’s, unlike the 360 most times, fail due to multiple factors including heat, capacitors going bad, general failing, bad solder, etc.
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its not the cpu or gpu chips. its the NEC Tokin capacitors next to the cpu and gpu chips.
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There is now a way to replace the GPU with a more reliable one from slim or super slim boards.
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I have an old fully backwards compatible ps3 that I tried to reflow the chip myself on. It didn't work, but I was fairly sure that it wouldn't but I had nothing to lose. I am not going to spend the money to get it reballed because I have a working ps3 slim, a working ps2 and a working ps1 so the backwards compatibility is not a huge deal for me.
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what complete and utter nonsense, it was the NEC Token capacitor not the graphics chips
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1:56 Louis Rossman has a couple of comments about this on the iFixit reflow video ua-cam.com/video/uMG-6rbanlY/v-deo.html
replace the 2 nec/token capacitors on the reverse side of the board to the processor, on the side of the gpu. if your ps3 is turning off within a few seconds 9 times out of 10 its them capacitors
Good to know!
Yah
red light of death right?
yes for the red light of death
Its not the gpu!
I blasted a hairdryer on high heat for 20 mins into my ylod fat ps3 60gb in 2008 and it's been working solidly to this day 2019.
you helped my point solder melts at around 180 degrees or a bit more. Average hair dryer gets about 140 degrees. YOur chip just did not fault again. But again I have fixed so many I am going on averages. Sure there are cars out there that go without oil changes for 20K miles and run. Then you have most of them that would break down at that point. Sure are their a few that do work. yep but again the solder did not melt at 140 degrees.
@@garyorner8325 Yep, I "repaired" my machine somehow but it definitely wasn't reflowing. You can never beat the good old hairdryer trick. It's like slapping the side of a TV to get a better signal... for some reason it works!
Reballing station could work too but no guarantees for that I fix alot of ps3s I use reballing 80% and sometime I use reflowing THE main problem is not the balls not connecting its inside cpu cell broken down when heat it up it solder back again to solid then this makes it works reballing is not a big thing
@@garyorner8325 The nec tokin capacitors feeding both the cpu and gpu eventually end up at a higher ESR than factory specs after enough heat cycles. When they fail you end up with the YLOD but of course the YLOD is just an indication that something is wrong and is not limited to the CPU, GPU, or Nec Token caps. I have replaced two of the 4 nec tokin caps on the gpu with tantalum caps with success but sometimes it’s a combination of bad Nec tokin caps and bad bga contact under one or both chips. When you heat the chips, even if under the melting point of solder you’re temporarily worping the chip just enough to make sufficient contact with the solder balls underneath again. Most of the time when someone does a reflow they do not preheat the entire board evenly causing a shorter fix than would normally occur. It’s temporary yes but it can last as long as a year or more if done right and a gaming console was designed with planned obsolescence at its core.
@@corybrown5583 I'd only agree with some of your points. The PS3 was not planned to fail after a few years. Even the 360 with its infamous red ring wasnt planned to fail. The red ring resulted from a critical oversight that cost them a mountain of money. The PS3 is different. Part of the issue was likely poor planning because of so many last minute changes. The RSX chip itself was not even originally planned and was such a disaster it caused Sony to never use Nvidia again. On top of making radical redesigns late in the game they also used a mountain of cutting edge technology. Blu ray, hd CD, a board containing the cell, the RSX, the emotion chip, and a bunch more chips to get every ridiculous feature working. The more complex the design the more things can fail and the harder it is to find every issue in QA testing. Sony made every new PS3 model more simple than the previous by removing complex and expensive features. Part of this was to lower cost but it was also to lower the failure rate. My PS3 slim has lasted me a decade. This isn't random luck this is because of Sony engineers putting in a ton of effort to make the PS3 as reliable as possible. I agree with everything else you said.
I think I have a reflow That was 10 years ago and my PlayStation 3 still works
It's a ps3 fat that you have?
@@Luca-sf1ty yeah 4 USB PS2 Compatible model I play it more than my PS4
Bullshit
@@badash786 That's kind of a severe response....... but I assure you I am telling the truth
@@Greenchrysopsaro I believe you
j just reflowed super slim model and it works 2 months already
does it still work, i am planing to do mine
Did it work?
I brought PS3 6 months ago I had no troubles until week ago. I just replace thermal paste on my PS3 80 GB plays PS2 games because my fan got very nosy .now it works fine. I hope it will last long time. I am not going brother with Reflowing or reball . I had first Xbox 360 came out it over heated I did towel trick it only lasted few times next thing my xbox 360 died. i didn't mater much i got it very cheap as it is few years ago
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Where can I take my Ps3 motherboard to be reballed?
Hey
@@Toqhy I don't care to fix it anymore waste of time and money
@@lit2241 hahah hah
@@Toqhy hahahahahaha
Reballing is the Key if reflowing failed. In our country its only cost 40 dollars
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Backwards compatibility would be worth it to most, if not all, the gamers I know. Not that I'm encouraging bad techniques while re-flowing, but if you look at this situation from a customer's point of view, they are going to want the quickest fix for this problem possible. Not everyone is going to take a great amount of care as they might should. So it shouldn't be surprising to you that people just heat the motherboard with a hair dryer or oven. You seem too critical about fixing this issue. I've looked up and found SEVERAL other videos where simply re-flowing has worked just fine.
How long did they work?
Not very long. It provides a bandaid fix only. Maybe you can get 6 months max.
@@Josh.Davidson I mean yeah I wouldn't *ultimately rely* on that approach at all either, but the guy in this video just seemed like he had a personal vendetta against anyone who tried it lol.
As a technician, the problem becomes from frustrations of receiving consoles that have been damaged further by these types of janky fixes, as well as the number of systems be repaired improperly and ultimately left for a landfill rather than a proper fix. So I understand his frustration.
Good day sir! Now i'm a certified electronic technician and you're exactly right. And more you should NEVER EVER HEAT A CHIP RIGHT OVER THE GLASS PART OF IT. Very easy to overheat and kill that chip. You just heat the 4 corners of the chip for 30 seconds, not more keeping moving your heat gun with good flux under the chip and stop, that's it. Like you said, you just did restructured the inside of the chip temporairely but IT WON'T LAST. And with this type of Ps3 chip you can't reflow the four corners because there are four memory chip, one at each corner so the heat won't even go in properly. Can last a day, a week, a month, a year, an hour, nobody knows. So, conclusion, when your Ps3 is dead, it's dead. It is only can be good to recover your hdd saves, that's it. Just buy another Ps3, that's all. Now, please guys, stop believing everything you see on you tube from people who are not certified technicians. You want the Ps3 to last longer, clean it every 2 years or every year and change the thermal paste inside the chip too if you are qualified to open the heatspreaders. and don't play more than 4 or 5 hours with them at the time. Same with Ps4. Thank you men and nice and real video truth from you. By the way again, it is very dangerous to open heatspreaders if you are not experience and again, don't listen to bad ways from a lot of you tubers on how to open them. Most of them are not qualified, sorry to say this but i want to protect custumers. See a professionnal technician. You scratch your chip just a bit and it's dead. Thank's. Regards.
Certified tech uses the word "glass part" troll
@@Dylan-qj8gj I used this word my men because i'm french. Take care!
Worth it when you do it yourself over and over again because you're stubborn. Also why I stopped buying next gen consoles and have moved to PC gaming.