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My Issues with Herman Miller Embody – Personal Experience
In this video I am talking about the problems I've encountered while using Herman Miller Embody for several months
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My issues with Herman Miller Mirra 2 - personal experience
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In this video I will tell you about my personal experience with Herman Miller Mirra 2, and more specifically about the problems that I've encountered. My height is 176cm (5' 9"), weight is 65 kg (143lbs)
Thank you. I am the same height and your video helped me understand the problem with the seat extension.
@zeroBSreviews thank you great video. Have you considered reviewing Steelcase Karman?
I have a huge desk I can rest my arms on so I wouldn't even care if the chair didn't have any armrest
You aren't pushing down with your legs. Instead what is happening is you are changing your center of gravity. When you lift your feet up (floor is no longer supporting your legs), the center of gravity moves forward. Feet down center of gravity moves back.
This pretty much summarized all of my pain points with this chair. I can't for the life of me find a replacement chair that isn't crap. I want to be able to sit up straight or have forward tilt. I've had my Embody for about 3 years and can never find the right setting >: Did you ever try the Aeron?
I read a post on Reddit. Did you try it?: -Turn the knob located at the bottom right hand at the back all the way away from the chair. You'll notice that the tower relaxes its spine and the tower will lean away from the seat. -Sit with your butt all the way to the back of the chair (adjust the seat depth if you need to give yourself a 2" gap between the back of your legs and the lip of the seat). You'll feel an uncomfortable bump in the chair near the base of your spine. Try to sit as upright as you can and look straight ahead, but don't expect your back to touch anything else but that bump for now. -Reach behind you and slowly start to turn that knob we worked with towards the front of the chair. You'll feel the back slowly flex to meet your back. Slowly start to 'slouch' into the back as the bump at the base starts to feel less intense, but keep looking ahead. -At a certain point, you'll feel the entire back 'turn into one piece' and the top will gently cup your shoulder blades. Ta Da! Chair is now adjusted to you
Did you experience any neck pain ? Mine feels super tight on the side.
Very good and useful data. I am 178 and 73kg and has hip impingement problems. Seems like the flexible front mesh is great. How does the mirra 2 compare to the Embody?
Zero BS, could you flip and swap the arms to flip them 180 degrees, you think? I hate that these arms don't scootch back like my Aeron. This is driving me nuts being able to move closer. Or what you can do is fine a solution to pad the arm rests up behind them so you push them down and lift them up.
Really useful, hands on experience, underlining the many issues which the professional reviewers never touch on. Thanks so much !
this all is not the case by my embody! tune the backrest just in little stephs nog turn the wheel a lot like he does. for his shape of his back he needs to qdjust the backrest bit tighter he sitting eith his higherbody to much back from his office tablet. his chair is a bit to high adjusted. he needs to use something undwr his feet or buu an adjustable office to lower it a bit in his case. on youtube a good video from a cerificated ergonomic teacher explanes it. that is so valueble for this chair and youre body support! to watch write on youtube how to setup the ergonomics of the herman miller embody. you will find the teacher then
I am glad embody works for you. That does not mean it works for everyone. There is no need to dump your passive agression in the comments.
@@zeroBSreviews its to help u also.i understand u do read it as agresssive. its not my attention im spiritual too my frend. ofc it not works for everybody. i just here to help and give me time for it in this advice commend :D
Thanks, very useful! I have a different kind of hip pain called FAI and will be leaning back a lot. I am used to using the mouse and keyboard on my lap, with the mouse on a metal mousepad and keyboard resting on the arm rest. very comfy and seems to solve the arm rest problem you talked about. Also considering the Aeron and Leap V2
I there, and thanks for your review. I just received my chair, and of course I've not had a lot of experience with it. I agree that the effect of biting into the backside of my legs is noticeable when reclining, and I need to either lower the chair or to have some footrest (probably, not tested yet). I'm 6'4, 180 pounds, so taller than you. I'd actually like the seat to pull out even more because of my height. To your point with the arm rests, I wonder whether your seat position is actually ideal. I noticed that I've precisely the same Ikea desk that you have, with the only modification that I made was to be able to move it up to 140cm from the otherwise maximum of about 125 cm by adding some blocks under the feet. But in a sitting position, it makes no difference. But because my chiro practitioner had suggested to me to go all the way up to 140cm for my height, I wonder whether you are using the arm rests correctly - or whether you should even be using them at all. As I'm writing this, I've my chair's armrests (extended all the way up) sliding in about 5 cm below the desk, in other words, I'm not using them at all while I'm typing. I just adjust the height of the chair and desk such that I can be as close to my monitor as I want. Your screen appears to also be height adjustable, so I've my eyes right at center level of my screen (vertically). Again, your mileage obviously varies, but what I can say is that after a couple hours already, in my old Ikea office chair, I'd already lying with my feet on the desk, swivelling my screen over and being basically sideways (the worst position imaginable); with the Herman Miller, I've not even had the impulse to do any of that.
I picked up a used Aeron Classic today and am experiencing pain in my lower thighs and related numbing in my calves and feet. Not sure if this is an adjustment period or not. I did lower the chair height a little so my feet are flat on the ground and my legs are level with my hips. Using a foot rest actually seems to make it worse. Time will tell I’ve seen other reviews where they say they had pain for about a week until they bodies adjusted to the chair. Fingers crossed 🤞
Any update on this?
same story, ended up with Aeron
This is the review that matters most. The distinction matters. The community appreciates your time considering these issues. The Embody has been disappointing for me, too. The search continues
Hello, a few days ago I purchased a brand new Mirra 2 chair. I am completely satisfied with it, but there is a slight wobble of a few millimeters or about 1 cm in the seat. I'm not sure what causes it; maybe the cylinder is moving? It's very annoying. Is this normal or is the chair faulty? Please let me know.
Purchased this chair after extensive research on web/yt (lol) About 1 year in now, and im looking to sell it because its honestly garbage. It hurts my back It hurts my Legs It hurts my lumbar area. It hurts my hips Its not wide enough even a slightly wide back It dosnt have adjustable lumbar Its over priced AS FUCK Simply, This chair was designed for One certain type of individual and then it does not fit anyone outside of this category (tall, sleek, long legged, person it was designed according to ) Its a big shit company owned by real assholes you are certainly supporting the elitist we all hate so much by supporting herman miller.
The arms on this chair are a joke for the price range. This chair is even more expensive than the Aeron, and has inferior armrest adjustability. I have the same issue, when the arms are adjusted to the correct height, they interfere with the desk, causing the cair to be set too far back for a proper typing postion. So I have to drop them to below the desk height so I can scooch the chair closer to the desk, so they may as well not be there at all.
Always worth keeping in mind: It isn''t a 'review' if there is an affiliate link and profit sharing from a sale. It's an advert. 90% of the reviews on UA-cam are nothing more than adverts. If you see an afiliate link, treat it as such.
@@williamtopping yup, that’s why I don’t post any links
some of your concerns are just a bit strange. the pixelated seatpan cant possible be pixelated in the fold as it would break upon a few adjustments, the top of the back rest complains it also a bit strange, because if you liek to sit forward and have a loose back rest you can just use the recline limiter in combination with the loos tension control. I will agree with you on the arm rests, they are very bad and tend to break before any other part of the chair. :)
Is this with the February 2021 update? It has extra padding on the whole seat, just like the Gaming Embody.
I'm 6'4" tall. IMO only tall people should buy this chair. There are better chairs for normal sized people for half the price (or get refurbished HM Aeron!).
Have you tried the leap
Should of got the gaming one they added extra padding to the seat
I am still in doubt if I should keel my Embody or return it, because of those arm rests. Either I use them and indeed too far away from keyboard, or need to lower and use my desk only. Not acceptable for a 1400 euro chair in my opinion. It should be dept adjustable/ 3D.
You need footrest...
@@HyperionGaming no I do not. Please refrain from posting useless advices that you’ve heard somewhere and do not fully understand.
So what's your current chair? I'm curious if you ever found a better one.
I had to send my embody back. The arm rests were a deal braker. And the the top part of the chair pushed my shoulders forward. I think I was too tall or my back was the "wrong shape" for the chair. Neat idea but flawed execution. I also struggled with the backrest tension.
this chair looks like to me it should only be like $800 i think they are major ripping people off now its made of cheap plastic not even real material. i need a new premium chair but would like to try one in person dont want to spend 1995 on a chair to have to return it upon receiving it and trying it out
You should try the Asus ROG Destrier if you want 180 degree adjustments of the armrest.
8:04 this is a big reason why I stopped using the fern because the reclining was nice but the arms killed it for me
It’s so important to try the chair first if it fits your style …recently upgraded from my secretlab to a fern with mesh back cause it’s getting so warm these days in Asia
Looks like you didn’t make any vids after this, so did you end up sticking with this one…?
I appreciate these critical reviews
Being honest: Aside all issues pointed, it's ugly. It's that simple for me. You can easily get a better looking and way more comfortable chair for half this one's price.
Have you ever considered a steelcase gesture?
I've sat on it in the showroom. There are two problems for me with it: 1) it is very warm, doesn't work well in my climate 2) it doesn't work well with my weight (67 kg) - it doesn't straighten properly after being reclined. It's a design issue. We tried three different gestures in the showroom and the all had the same problem, quite an overlook.
Poor review you should state its your personal issue taste not that its a design issue. I am the same height and have owned one for eight years and had none of the issues you have. The chair is made to make you adopt proper posture which you don't have. You have a standing adjustable desk and you are complaining about getting close to your keyboard raise the desk seriously. People this is a personal view ignore it try the chair out at a local dealer before you buy it. My experience with this chair below I have owned one for eight years looks almost new. I had a lot of replacement arms (button issue) but they provided new ones and fitted them at home. They are now giving me a new chair after eight years because of the arm button issue which is immense. Worth every single penny. It was purchased to help cure my sciatica and that's exactly what it did. I have tried every chair on the market in this range never found a better one.
Raising the desk will screw up the ergonomics :) why do you even watch review of a chair that you owned for so long I wonder? I am really glad that the review resonated with you and left you butthurt (no pun intended). Thank you for supporting the channel by leaving the comment ;)
"The chair is made to make you adopt proper posture" "..raise the desk seriously" what even is this comment I'm baffled
I recently bought one of these and agree with all of these points, but the thing that pushed me to return the chair is the pressure points caused by the lower 4 "pins" on the back rest. After a few hours I was getting really bad nerve pain in my lower back that persisted even with lots of stretching and breaks. It's really unfortunate because despite the gripes with the chair, I really wanted to love it. The back rest when I had it adjusted right felt great and the bottom seat is probably one of the best I've sat in, but considering how much HM is selling this thing for, I expect it to be near perfect... oh well.
I am sorry it didn’t fit you. I didn’t experience the problem with the pressure points on the back rest but I have a friend with a similar issue on the same (literally) Embody that I used to have :(
What did you get instead?
lmk when u find a chair you like!
All my tech jobs had Herman Millers, the Mirra 2 was by far the most comfortable for me being 6’3. The thigh adjuster is so handy for me as well.
Hey, I bought this chair and became it yesterday. I used it now for 8 hours and I have a kind of pain, numbless and tinging in the legs now (upper thigh, in the knee region). Did you have that to? does it go away? is it maybe a kind of acclimatisation to this chair? Perhaps I'm sitting too straight and it would be better if I could sit at a 5% angle, which is unfortunately not possible to configure. So, maybe I need to buy a special seat cushion with a tilt angle. What did you do with your chair, because you have had also leg pain, as you mentioned? Would appreciate your help, if you or other guys have this issue. Cheers from Europe, Switzerland
In my case I had to sell it after several months. My problem with thigh pain didn’t go away. I don’t advise you to buy any cushions - you bought the chair that have to work out of the box. Try playing with seat height, if it doesn’t help then itself probably just not for you, it happens.
@@zeroBSreviews thanks. And what chair you bought instead, after the Embody?
Have you tried Leap v2?
I tried it in the showroom. It's definitely not for me: it has quality issues, the same as Aeron (some units are uneven - leaning to the right/left), the siting pan is way to hot for my climate and I hated the recline mechanism, it feels like it moves the seat from under you
@@zeroBSreviews the moving cushion is the feature of the chair as far as I'm aware. You can fix it in one position though, so that it wont move
Interesting points. Have you a better alternative model, that is comfortable (for the back and buttocks) too, but without the negative arguments from the Embody model?
I am currently alternating between aeron and sayl. Sayl is not good for my back, but okay for thighs. Aeron is great for my back and very bad on thighs due to the seatpans extreme angle that pulls me away from the desk.
Mine embody has the exact same recline issue, i could never dial it to the sweet spot, it's either too firm i can't recline, or too loose i can't sit straight, i like to change between siting upright and relaxed frequently, and i had to turn the knobs 5 to 6 times to do that which is annoying, the only solution is to set the recline loose enough and use the title limiter to limit the range, but that isn't ideal as well, because with the upright tilt limit, it still leans back a bit, and you are never really siting upright, that slight tilt push my leg up and sink my butt down a little bit, it just feels uncomfortable. At first I thought perhaps this issue is just due to my weight and body shape, until i tried another embody in a showroom, and i was able to dial it to the sweetspot. Not sure what could have caused this incosistency. Seeing that your unit had the same issue, i wonder how inconsistent each units are. regardless, i will try claim warranty for a replacement and see how it goes.
Your legs hurt because when you bend the seat to make space in the back of your legs, you are stretching the mesh, especially around the knee area. Try bending the seat a bit less if it allows.
lol i had pain and it turned to numbness. Yeah I think we can stop there not buying this chair.
I'm having the same issue with the arm rests being too big so I can't get close enough to my desk.
I'm very happy with my own one, only thing for me that i don't like is that the seat can get a bit warm if not taking a break once in a while. Not a deal breaker though.
Does your chair wobbles back and forth too when the back setting is all the way forward (least recline)? The HM person told me it's normal, but I don't know if he's telling the truth.
mine does, i think its normal
@@Dew4lk thanks buddy