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Yes, we sort of realized that after the fact. Thanks for the heads up.

We know. Just experimenting 😉

Just says MSFLE on ours. We think it's one of the first, but we could be wrong. $100 for an almost new Freak from that era is a really great deal. Definitely a banned list bat. And yes, those bats were absolute tanks, could take hit after hit and get better and better. Enjoy, you are gonna have a blast with that gem.

@ the MSFLE is the Limited Edition that came out a little later, because of the high demand, but is legal in ASA/USA league play. So far, we have bought 3 MSFN’s and the MSF I bought is like new, which is unbelievable. So happy I got it. 😁

3 Miken Freaks!?!? I'd be playing a very deep 3rd base lol 😨

@@ClincherCrew1 we broke them out yesterday in the cold and those baby’s are so hot especially in the center of the barrel, with 14 shots over the 290’ fence and we aren’t Home Run hitters. 👍🥎.

My, man! 💪

Thanks for the support, we appreciate you. Very unique bat, that's for sure. We might have to give it another go one day.

"I'm a detractor" Haha. We're kinda with you on this bat. And we're big fans of the double barrel Eastons. But, this one fell short compared to later models that came out.

@@ClincherCrew1 @Nunnayadambiness what else do ppl swing there/agree is good? I'm trying to figure out if ASA, USSSA, dbl barrells specifically, one piece two piece etc are best for clinchers in modified. I feel like asa composites are pretty popular, I've swung some senior bats taht are good including the worth wicked one piece sr bat which is by far the hottest I've tried

the worth I've swung both prepared (shaved I believe) and not and the one that is prepared is disgusting, the other is more inline w other asas I've swung

@Ljqrs2005 Interesting. So much trial and error goes into hitting Clincher balls. Often times, bats that nobody mention, end up being great with Clincher balls.

@Ljqrs2005 The Easton Double Barrel bats are very good in our experience and a safe bet for clinchers in modified league play. Others can be a crap shoot. Suncoast Senior Bats are generally good. Our current favorite is the Onyx Kings ( 1-piece, USSSA Bat) which is kind of a sleeper bat.

Yeah, this was a bit of a letdown. We've seen the Fastpitch counterpart from 2018, might have to see if we can scoop one of those up.

It is our understanding that the White Negotiator is a repaint of the 2024 Easton Tantrum. The specs on both bats are the same. The White Negotiator is a Smash It Sports exclusive.

We're 2 for 2 as far as Onyx bats go. Kings was 🔥 Enough Said was 🔥 We're gonna deep dive into more Senior bats and more Onyx bats. They are slowly winning us over

Good question. I think, but don't quote me, the one on the banned USA list is a previous Backlash model. The one we swung is for both 52cor. and 44cor. balls. But, given Suncoasts reputation, I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being unapproved at some point as well, if it isn't already.

Most clincher ball leagues in New York (where we're based) don't pitch with an arc style. The pitching in those leagues is called modified, and more like Fastpitch.

Clincher Balls; very soft, very low compression balls. In short, they suck, but have become increasingly popular in leagues in the New York and Tri-State area. They come in 16in (Chicago Style) and 12in (what we use). The pitching, yes, is considered modified (not Slowpitch, not arc pitching) in our leagues. It is more along the lines of Fastpitch though. Rules state, the pitcher must not use a windmill or slingshot-type pitch or make a complete revolution on delivery. Some pitchers are very difficult to hit off of and it does make for great competition.

Bro, c'mon. 😔 ua-cam.com/video/svh3LQzPnK8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/K50sU4cxLkE/v-deo.html

Oh, shoot! That's a mistake on our part. We are hitting the 12 inch clinchers. We're gonna have to fix that for our following videos. Damn 4k, shows everything.

So funny you say that. Completely by accident, we scooped up a Corker Clincher the other day, thinking it was one of ours. And after hitting it, we were like, wtf, this does not hit and sound like a typical Debeer Clincher. And yes, like you said, these respond very differently. Be interesting to test the Corkers and the Golds as well.

You guys have one of the lower end senior bats. Like someone said senior bats doesn’t hit mush balls well.

We have another video coming out soon with a Senoir Bat that performed very well with the clinchers. It's looking like it's gonna be a mixed bag of good and not so good bats.

Hahaha. We've all been in that situation, again, and again, and again.

Got a nice collection going. I like your upgrade process. Do you hit clinchers? We're curious how a Freak would perform with them.

Sounds like you have a pretty strict league. We'd recommend the Ultimate Weapon all day for a 1 piece, alloy bat. If you're hitting clinchers, you'd definitely want to go for a heavier bat. If you're hitting something else, the extra bat speed with a lighter bat could be helpful. If you're interested, we'd sell you our Ultimate Weapon, it's a 28oz.

What bat???

@@ClincherCrew1 the onyx purple and gold Jermaine Lewis bat that bat flip bp sent you

Oh, no, not yet. It's on the dock. Along with many others. If it hits anything like the Onyx Kings we recently swung, then damn!

@@ClincherCrew1 lol there pretty hot it seems I'm just curious cause I'm in a clincher league and I've been gaming a Suncoast melee 3 this year and it's pretty ridiculous but I have been looking into maybe getting an onyx

@@randyjones7320 We played against a team that used that same Suncoast. Bombs all day. They got kicked out of the league for using a Senior Slow Pitch Bat. Our league was ASA/USA only. Some leagues don't care though.

Hmmm. That's a great idea. Awesome tip. Just might have to implement that into our bat breakdowns. Could add another layer of detail. Thanks so much.

Thanks for the support, dude. Much appreciated 👏

You do know that all our evaluations are based upon how the Bats perform with the Clincher balls, not the 52/300 balls, hence the name, "Clincher Crew" and our about description, "Your home for honest bat reviews devoted to hitting DeBeer Clinchers." We only hit 52/300 balls so the viewer can see the dichotomy between those balls and the clincher balls. Leagues that use clincher balls don't typically pitch in a high arching manner like most Slowpitch leagues. The pitching is more indicative of what you'd see in a Fastpitch League.

That's clincher balls for ya!

Hopefully one day the righty swing will be as controlled as the left. Still needs some work.

Haha. I remember you reviewing it a few months ago. Insane pop. Stoked to test that bad boy out!

i need to try that purple Onyx. I have an orange/blue that I think imploded. Sounds like hitting a pillow. it test about 500 on the tester!!!! Five hundred.

@@ericsun7918 500??? That's insane!!

No kidding? Hmmm. Hitting clinchers?

@ClincherCrew1 it's practically the only softball we use out here in our slowpitch and modified leagues. Edit: once smashitsports had these on sale for less than 100, so many people got in on it.

Is it the USA/ASA model? Or the USSSA model?

@@ClincherCrew1 USA/ASA

Yeah. That's that double barrel tech. Very good with clinchers.

I think Jeff and I (Chris) might be split on this one. Personally, I liked the Ultimate Weapon more. I prefer the stiffer design of a 1 piece bat. I feel it's a little more catered to my swing. I think Jeff hit a bit better with the Steel than the Ultimate Weapon. He prefers more of the 2 piece design. Really, it's gonna come down to what you prefer more. I will say that there will be an adjustment phase with either of these bats. It will require some practice BP to figure them out and hone in on, especially if you're used to swinging composite bats.

The Ultimate Weapon is a great choice for non-composite leagues. The DeMarini Steel is a solid choice, as is the Miken Maniac. A buddy of mine and his teammates use the Maniac and love it.

"Smooth Operator."

So we dedicate our bat reviews to the debeer clinchers, hence the name clincher crew. After some internal team talking we decided to review the bat on the greens and then the clinchers separately that way we cater to a bigger audience. Thanks for the input.

Solid bat. We swung that last season. Matched it up against the Easton Synergy. You can check it out here, ua-cam.com/video/uhx1Xl5oUp8/v-deo.html

Nice, dude! Good for you. Guess the Syko performs. Sometimes there are sleeper dual stamps that shine.

Haha. We tag them, and hopefully they see it when we release the BP session with it.

Haha

Thanks, brotha. The steel is definitely worth a go. Jeff had a field day with it. If you wanna give ours a try, we'd be happy to ship it out.

@@ClincherCrew1 maybe we can work out a trade or something. Anything you been wanting to try out?

@@BatFlipBP Hell yeah! So many lol. Maybe a 1 piece, we've had our eye on a Genesis or an Easton Tantrum. What’s the best way to reach out to you guys instead of the comments section?

@@BatFlipBP Hell yeah! So many lol. Maybe a 1 piece, we've had our eye on a Genesis or an Easton Tantrum. What’s the best way to reach out to you guys instead of the comments section?

@@ClincherCrew1 Facebook is probably the quickest way to message, I don’t really do all the social media stuff and I rarely check the batflip email, though it does exist. In fact I saw you sent a message. I’ll just reply back to that. But I would say messenger is the quickest, the tab is always open at work.

Nice!!! Hey, if you ever wanna swap bats, let us know, we've got a whole arsenal. Plus, we'd love to give the Syko a go too 💪

U guys are awesome I love the content. I hope that isn’t a 200ft. kids baseball field tho. All good if u let us know I’m just saying y’all are probably killing it over that fence.

Hahaha “it was at this moment that he knew he fucked up” proceeds put his glove out when the ball is already passed 2nd base.

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Thanks for the love and the support, my friend. Lol, definitely not a kids field, it's 300ft to center, the gaps are maybe a little more, then it tapers and gets shorter at the corners.

Enjoy it, brotha! It hits, and it looks badass

All the balls we hit in this video are DeBeer F12 Clincher

@@ClincherCrew1 ty atm playing in a coed league in central park for my job and I am using a easton rebel and a old easton s300 speed brigade which is much older and hot from the years of use but the rebel is horrible and really hoping to find something that is great for clinchers

We tested the Easton Rebel, terrible bat. Some of those older Eastons aren't bad. Best bet is to find an Easton with the double barrel tech, pretty much all those bats are great with clinchers, just gotta find one that fits your swing and your preference

@@ClincherCrew1 and that isi usa asa since my league only permits those was thinking of getting the new torch 1 piece

or the new miken syko

These are DeBeer F12 Clinchers. Very soft, low-compression balls, but almost primarily used out here on the East Coast.

Thanks for the support, brother! Means a lot. Much appreciated. Following in your foot steps 👍

@@ClincherCrew1 keep doing what your doing! I love the different perspective hitting clinchers. Maybe I gotta bring the big ball out to our next video 😄

Would love to see it!

Thanks for the support and the comment. We'll be plenty busy this summer. The DC-41 was a bit of a let down for us. I've read that the 2018, 2019, and 2020 version were hot out of the wrapper like you said. Unless they changed the tech last year or it just needs more breaking in, dunno. Maybe, we'll keep working it in.

Yeah, the DC-41 didn't wow us. Might need a lot of breaking in like you said. We had a 2021 ASA Ryan Harvey Krecher. Kinda performed the same as the DC-41 with clinchers. It was decent, but there are better bats with clinchers. The KP23 could be a potential pick up for us soon.

The Miken Maniac for sure is a better bat.

Yeahhhhhhh!