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"If This is the Case, it's Better Not to Marry"
"For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another-to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God." Romans 7:2-4
Resources:
1. Article by Roger Hertzler: www.watchmangospelsigns.com/resources/Dear_Pastor.pdf
2. Article by Finny Kuruvilla: static1.squarespace.com/static/570e3c2f8259b563851efcf8/t/5911288c4402435d4e08c196/1494296716383/essay_remarriage.pdf
3. Sermon by Finny Kuruvilla: ua-cam.com/video/eWqkR_wIDR0/v-deo.htmlsi=OIPd__MCPiwGhdTC
4. Sermon by David Bercot: ua-cam.com/video/rThN8a2SK8Y/v-deo.htmlsi=hxfylDPZREoGTAf6
Resources:
1. Article by Roger Hertzler: www.watchmangospelsigns.com/resources/Dear_Pastor.pdf
2. Article by Finny Kuruvilla: static1.squarespace.com/static/570e3c2f8259b563851efcf8/t/5911288c4402435d4e08c196/1494296716383/essay_remarriage.pdf
3. Sermon by Finny Kuruvilla: ua-cam.com/video/eWqkR_wIDR0/v-deo.htmlsi=OIPd__MCPiwGhdTC
4. Sermon by David Bercot: ua-cam.com/video/rThN8a2SK8Y/v-deo.htmlsi=hxfylDPZREoGTAf6
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What's with the Head Covering?
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Resources: 1. RC Sproul's belief on head coverings ua-cam.com/video/X1Zmjyvet_4/v-deo.htmlsi=dh7T0VimCjnLPLk7 2. A thorough & excellent 3 part series by Finny Kuruvilla - ua-cam.com/video/QA4bxP0nY_0/v-deo.htmlsi=FkHH2jiYC1ZoDp7d 3. 14 objections to the head covering debunked by Daniel Willis ua-cam.com/video/Y0ecwZRhd8s/v-deo.htmlsi=kEBJD0co6dap8X07
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Our goal was to record 95 theses to reform our modern day church... but we were very surprised by what we learned in studying the Reformation and church history. Resources: 1. The Ante-Nicene Writings: scrollpublishing.com/products/ante-nicene-fathers-on-cd-rom/ 2. A powerful sermon on the Gospel of the Kingdom: ua-cam.com/video/TqG5tL01Bds/v-deo.html 3. An excellent resource containing relevan...
Dylan you said since Adam and eve where does it say in the Bible that Eve covered her head
Your wrong about the part of not being able to remarry if your first spouse cheated on you. It does not matter if they are still alive or not. Jesus also preached forgiveness and compassion.
The Bible ONLY mentions remarriage when the first spouse has passed, no other time. Remarriage while first spouse is alive is adultery says John the Baptist and he was killed for that position. He said it was “…unlawful for Herod to have his brother Philip’s wife” which means Herodias is still bound to Philip and Philip is still bound to Herodias in the eyes of the LORD though Herod and Herodias claim to be married to each other legally. Adultery IS unpardonable if it is continued without repentance, just like fornication, and homosexuality. Can’t keep it up after asking forgiveness a time or two. Don’t be misled or mislead others with your own understanding or an ear-tickling pastor, not worth the eternal risk. Bummer too because I have many family and friends that are in second or more marriages but refuse to hear the truth. Bless you!
Most people probably wouldn’t just marry anyone as well.
I understand the sin but don’t know why a young couple is talking about it?
As a Slavic Baptist church we were practicing the women’s head covering for as long as I can remember, so I thought it was a tradition. But recently I was studying 1 Corinthians myself and I realized that it is not just a tradition or cultural practice it’s the WORD of GOD that tell us to do so. So I preached about it in our church and the first person who came up to me and thanked me was my wife! She’s doing through almost the same thing her head cover is getting bigger and bigger :) I always remind myself and her that we must please God not people around us. Thanks for sharing your experience and God bless you, stay strong in the word of God!
Well said. Glory to God! Keep standing on the truth of God's word.
Her hair is forthe covering explanation.. her hair is the covering .. let her b shorned if she cuts her hair.. no disbutes .. one is rite thenother is wrong..its only thru a revelation awankening .. ding .. i get it God.. we read it.. without waiting on God .. bong .. its a shame for men to have long hair.. hes not a woman .. bong.. it has nothing to do with a hat .. her hair is her covering.. 🎉
I thought my long hair was my covering. I recently had to cut my long hair very short due to mobility issues. I told my husband i felt i will need to cover my head in church. Im glad i heard this video.
I’m going to just let Christ do what Christ does….. He is the ultimate judge.
Salvation is not a condition of head covering. There is no power in covering your hair.
Blessings. The Lord specifies that unless there is Adultery or harm or death, then you may not remarry. if your adulterous spouse is divorced from you then yes you can remarry. Also, divorce is a forgivable sin. Is remarrying a sin? only if the divorce is unbiblical and it may become an adulterous marriage. if there is no adultery death or abuse in a marriage, then there are no grounds for divorce even if you are unequally yolked. That is just nutshelling the teaching however It is always best to study the scripture for yourselves to get a better understanding and seek the Lord in prayer. God bless
Amen! I have came to the knowledge of this and many need to read scripture and seek God because the way is truly narrow which leads to life.
Covers middle of the head
It seems like you're reading the Bible as if it's a giant list of rules for Christians to follow. It's not that, which is why reading it that way leads to lots of confusion. Many Christians do the same, so you're not alone! That particular book is a letter Paul wrote, in response to a letter he received from the church in Corinth. Unfortunately we don't have their letter, so we have to guess at what exactly Paul was answering here. The best guess I've ever heard is that this passage is related to a Roman law that only respectable married women could wear veils, and that slaves and prostitutes could not. Perhaps Corinthian men were trying to enforce this law, creating class divisions within the Church, and Paul was telling them to stop and let women wear a veil if they choose, even if it's against Roman law. But being Paul, he tends to try to teach people how to think, rather than just dispensing rules. So it comes out pretty weird from where we sit.
i have been head covering for nearly 2 yrs now as well. my husband on the other hand is VERY strongly against it. But the Holy Spirit brought me to this and i too had a dream. where Jesus veiled me. thats when i went from a headband to a full covering. Also so many tell me that it isnt commanded but today the Lord said when is the women to wear it. i said while praying and prophesying. When are we to pray. well in 1 thess it says pray without ceasing so that is back up that we are to pray and wear it continually.
Yes, and amen!@
You can tell this w0m@n has a pure spirit. Not like the haughty and defiant W0m3n of today.
I know it says that in the Bible but doesn’t that refer ppl who were divorcing their spouse for silly reasons not abuse or infidelity. I have thought about this before but I feel that it may be taken out of context or taken too literally. I know lot of divorced and remarried Christian’s that have a genuine relationship with the lord and I do not. Believe they are going to hell for it.
If you can share how you think it is literal and should be listened to would be great.
This guy is doing his own interpretation. Jesus said, you can divorce if the other one is cheating. He never said you cannot get remarried, thats something the guy in video added himself.
@@burnoutrelief1850 No you are horribly mistaken if you are thinking like that God's word is firm on that and won't change because of anyone if they are still remmarred while first spouse is alive they are all heading to hell fire if they don't repent. God bles.
This teaching is from legalism and pharisaical. Most people do NOT want a divorce. Divorce happens because we live in a fallen world and are sinners saved by the Blood sacrifice and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. I was married to a violently abusive Pastor, and a good biblical one, who also had cheated. I prayed and fasted for years. He left, alcohol and two women later. Treated him biblically at all times. Tried to kill me. Succeeded in working me almost to death and broken back bones, trauma and more. He was adulterous. There is NO sin that is not forgiven when we repent - his, nor mine if I decide to remarry. And am NOT agreeing it is a sin to remarry. Christ died for EVERY sin, EVERY shortcoming of man, EVERY error, EVERY decision. THINK, and READ. Look at the Fathers in the Bible - Abraham, David, Jacob, and more. All adulterous men of multiple wives. Were they not forgiven? Do they not have an inheritance with Christ Jesus?? Despite many being well intended, such as this couple - Don’t let humans tell you what to believe, search the scriptures for yourself, and go back to the 1611 version or older - Geneva, Tyndall, Great Bible, etc.
I totally agree! And we must not confuse the terms. Marriage is a covenant, not a legal contract. "Divorce" is a legal term, not a covenant. If someone is remarried and their original spouse is alive it's adultery because the covenant still holds before God. Compare Hebrews 11 with Judges 11 and find that Jephthah's faith in "beholding Him who is invisible" was about him recognizing this attribute of God: a covenant cannot be broken. Some like Finny Curuvilla, therefore, take the 'exception clause' to mean that someone in a second marriage SHOULD divorce, since they are living in adultery! Either way, divorce is merely a legal separation of a covenant that should not be broken. They have two choices: reconcile or remain single. And if that sounds harsh, remember that marriage is NOT about our happiness! It may bring not, but primarily it's a mystery meant to reflect the relationship between Christ and His church. 😊
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How womderful to hear this !! I have believed this for many many years and practice covering my head as the Bible teaches . Some will say legalistic . Really??? So much more to say , but not at this time . Thank you .
I think you (and the historical church) are mistranslating Jesus' statement: "Is divorce okay for any reason? No... only for Adultery." Adultery means, literally, "sexual sin", as you have stated here. However, God throughout the Old Testament refers to the Hebrew nation as committing adultery with other gods. This opens up a non-literal, metaphorical adultery, which would translate "severe violation of a covenant." God's complaint about the Hebrew nation in the Old Testament definitely fit that meaning. That would mean that non-sexual sin within a marriage could reach the level of covenant-violating infraction, and thus allow a victim spouse to flee an abusive or exploitative situation. The next question, then, is whether Jesus was using the literal or the metaphorical meaning of adultery when he made his statement. This will come down to a statement of faith. Do you have more faith in the Christian tradition of literal interpretation, or do you have more faith that the pattern of Jesus' overall conflict with the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law was the latter's pattern of over-literalizing The Law? Nothing I have said here says that divorce or remarriage, or first marriage for that matter, are decisions which should be made lightly or without the advice of wise counselors. Covenenants like marriage are weighty matters.
Amen!!!
1 Corinthians 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is glory to her; for her hair is given her for a covering. So my uncut hair is my covering. I’m covered, that covers, that.
Hair is not the covering spoken about and you'd be the only person in the church to think that for over 1900 years
I agree with everything you said. My husband and I are married 44 years now - both our first and only marriage. I'm not sure what to tell others about what they should do if they've already divorced and remarried. Apart from separating and confessing their sin of adultery/repenting. Would they be allowed back into the church family by doing so? Then they are twice divorced... It gets confusing! (edited to add). What about people that divorced and remarried before they became believers? Would that be different?
I was married so long ago myxe husband still alive and he's remarried I've always been single all these years now im58 and have met the most ausome man who is a Christian now wat do I do
@@MarcelinaCarrera-j3h Don't remarry. Simple
Thank you for telling the Truth One of the hardest of Christ’s teachings to accept, probably because of the culture we’ve grown up in. (Crooked and perverse) May God help everyone currently living in adultery make the necessary changes to walk in the light. My heart goes out to everyone that wasn’t told the truth by their churches and even counseled into second and third marriages. May God help in every way all those that want to make things right
So I am an adulterous I remarried before my 1st husband died. So what should I do.
The days of your adultery ended when your 1st husband died. So you are good now.
in a true, caring Christian family, that shouldn't be a worry. none of us are perfect. but if you're asking modern day mennonites, there's nothing you can do. you are perpetually wrong, and if you don't speak low german and you aren't white, there are truly no hope for you.
This teaching is from legalism and pharisaical. Most people do NOT want a divorce. Divorce happens because we live in a fallen world and are sinners saved by the Blood sacrifice and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. I was married to a violently abusive pastor who also had cheated. I prayed and fasted for years. He left, alcohol and two women later. Treated biblically at all times. Tried to kill me. He was adulterous. There is NO sin that is not forgiven when we repent. His, nor mine if I decide to remarry. Christ died for EVERY sin, EVERY shortcoming of man, EVERY error, EVERY decision. THINK, and READ. Look at the Fathers in the Bible - Abraham, David, Jacob, and more. All aldilterius men of multiple wives. Were they not forgiven? Do they not have an inheritance with Christ Jesus?? Despite many being well intended, such as this couple - Don’t let humans tell you what to believe, search the scriptures for yourself, and go back to the 1611 version or older - Geneva, Tyndall, Great Bible, etc.
Going by Catholic teaching, your current marriage probably wasn’t a sacrament of marriage in the Church & so would not be regarded as a marriage. In principle, you could marry now in the Church. I might not have all your factual background & you might not be Catholic but I mention the above anyway.
What's the plan of salvation according to the Bible
most modern mennonites don't believe in salvation or faith, just be white, speak low german and that's all you need. otherwise you're not allowed to enter.
Accept Jesus as our lord and savior. That he came and died for all of our sins and on the third day he rose from the dead. We are saved and have salvation through the blood sacrifice of Jesus the Christ. We are under the grace of God through the sacrifice of Jesus. God truly loves us. When we start arguing over what is clean and unclean we have lost. Romans 14:3 [3] Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.
Romans 14:1-4 Do Not Pass Judgment on One Another [1] As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. [2] One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. [3] Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. [4] Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
The plan of salvation is the plan of God reconciling all things to himself. The gospel is not that Jesus came to save us so we can go to heaven. The gospel is the good news that we can be citizens in His kingdom and partner with God as his ambassadors proclaiming His Kingdom realities and laws to our neighbors. When we start arguing over what the gospel is and over what God's laws are we've lost. There are some issues we should agree to disagree on (like keeping the Sabbath (Rom 14)), but we should all have unity on what the New Testament commands are because obeying God's commands is how we show love for God and for people (1 John 5). I like the saying "In NT commands unity, in extra-biblical teachings liberty & in all things charity."
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telling people about the word and the rules is fine, but not allowing someone in the church because of divorce and remarrying sounds incredibly modern day mennonite. there's about 100 reasons to cast people out and less than a handful to take people in. no one is good enough to be mennonite. very sad. i hope it's not the case with you.
@@SamuelHaydenARC I'm not Mennonite. But being all inclusive to everyone no matter the background is a sure way to end up with a church that is exactly like progressive Christian churches.
@@kp3. im not in favor of those type of liberal churches, but not allowing people in your church because they don't speak low german or aren't white is not Christianity.
I don’t think you understand what the Lord commands churches to do in this situation. The truth is sometimes stranger than fiction 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 --- 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. --- Of course in meekness and tender heartedness , ready to receive someone back with open arms if they are willing to make things right(in genuine repentance).
Everyone is welcome in church but 1 Cor 5 explains how we have an obligation to handle people who call themselves Christians who call good evil and evil good. Most American churches would not allow a "Christian" pedophile to take communion in good standing with them. The reason should be because they are living in sexual immorality and we're called to obey 1 Cor 5. We don't want to apply remarried couples into the same category because we don't really believe Jesus's words about remarriage being adultery.
Im in a conservative church and divorce is unheard of for us, thankfully.
that's great but are your doors closed to someone who has?
@@SamuelHaydenARC If it was because of a partners infedelity, maybe . I've just never heard of it happening in our setting.
I mostly agree with everything you said except about remarrying after infedelity. Am I interpreting this wrong ? (And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. ) I understand it as the one who committed adultery could not remarry . Thanks I really enjoy your videos
The articles we posted do a great job of thoroughly explaining that verse. The "exception clause" is a means to divorce without sinning. No one has the freedom to remarry while their first spouse is alive. “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.” (Mark 10:2-12)
Exactly. The one in adultery is the one that cheated. Not the one that divorced and remarried because of it
@@heidrichforgottenfaith marc 10 ; 2 -12 speaks about the one that cheat. Not the one that have been cheated
34 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. 1 Corinthians 14 (NASB)
Exactly! Pastors have men removed their hats for prayer and yet we are frowned upon when we cover our heads in most churches, yet it comes from the same scripture!
Thank you! I started covering my head almost a year ago while praying and fasting and reading the Word where it says we are supposed to. I am the only one I know that covers. Most Christians hate the thought of it but we need to be courageous and obedient.
Amen.
Any commnd in the Torah regarding covering? Thank you
Exodus 28.4 & Ezekiel 44.18 told priests to wear head coverings
What is the meaning of prophesying? It says prayer and prophesying.It means both or tog.when one is praying and prophesying one needs to cover What if you forgot your cover , one can no longer pray? .Thank you
I wouldn't say you can't pray if you forget your covering or if you're in the shower without one; but if it's a command from God then we should take it seriously and not forget it. I don't leave my house forgetting to wear my pants and women shouldn't forget their head coverings.
Praise the Lord for opening your eyes to the true love of God, through the word of God amen, keep bringing the word to people to see it from God used you to bring souls to Christ amen. 🙏
Interesting how he came to you about this. He isnt the one wearing it. Now your wearing it. Glad it greatly affected him.
«Il leur dit: «Maintenant, au contraire, que celui qui a une bourse la prenne, que celui qui a un sac le prenne également, et que celui qui n'a pas d'épée vende son vêtement et en achète une.» Luc 22:36
Right, but he didn’t say that we should use the sword on other people.
La vidéo de Craig Keener (un spécialiste du nouveau testament) sur le sujet est très intéressante. Il mentionne entre autres que le commandement de se donner « a holy kiss » est 4x plus présent dans les lettres de Paul. Qui insiste pour que les hommes s’embrassent d’un saint baiser? Il faut éviter le légalisme et se rappeler que l’important est le coeur et la soumission intérieure. De plus, le voile est associé à l’Islam et j’aurais peur d’être confondue pour une musulmane.
Genesis 6 can help explain about Paul's reasoning for the covering due to Angels.
Are you calvinists?
Dear Christian women. May the Lord bless you for wanting to obey His Word. The Truth hough is that a woman's hair is her covering and she should not cut her hair. 🙏🙏
That simply doesn't make sense. Hair is not the covering spoken about and you'd be the only person in the church to think that for over 1900 years.
@@heidrichforgottenfaith 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much for sharing your story and convictions. That RC Sproul clip you mentioned has been really helpful for me and my husband too. I'm so thankful to see people like you on UA-cam. I'm the only one who practices headcovering in my church of about 400 people and I feel really alone and strange sometimes. I know beyond a doubt that the Lord has called me to wear a headcovering and I'm walking in obedience, but it's hard at times.
God bless you. I began wearing mine in 1996 when I was 40. I am now 68. I am the only one at my conservative Baptist church who wears one. I don't mind. Nothing to be ashamed of. 🙏✝️🕊💜
@@cherylwebb8340 Thank you for the encouragement. ❤️
Keep standing on the truth! Jesus is truly worthy! When did it become strange to do what Jesus wants us to do in his own church? Crazy, isn't it? Praying for more eyes to be opened and hearts to be softened.
Thank you for sharing about your journey on the head covering. I was part of a church where the women who were believer's wore a head covering and while I was part of that group, It was comfortable. After I left that group to go to another church, I continued to wear my covering even though no one else wore one. Sometimes I have felt self- concious, like how you said visible. I did not want to protray that I was spiritually better than anyone else, but I felt that this is what the bible taught, that a woman should cover her head, and I believe God has blessed me in this. Our covering speaks to those around us that we have a relationship with God, and they will often say God Bless you. It is a reminder to us to be faithful in how we represent our God.
All very true. It is definitely a witness. People recognize this ❤
Praise God! Keep standing on the truth.
I think trying both ways is good- whatever you’re convicted to do. overall I like the way where you can wear a head covering but actually see a woman’s long hair.
I’d also like to comment - thanks for sharing this recent video of your faith walk. Years ago I saw a few women on youtube/instagram stop covering their head and it’s just confusing after that and then what is the point of having hair if you’re covering your head and hair?
@annabelle1471 a gift for your husband only?
If I was God, I wouldn't ask women to cover their heads. But I believe God wrote 1 Corinthians and inspired godly women to cover their heads for over 1900 years. Sometimes we have to do things that don't make sense. His thoughts are above our thoughts and his ways are above our ways.
Amen! ❤
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12