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There is the creek itself at the trail head that was a good source of water. On the hike forward from the Willow Creek trailhead, I passed a few valleys that had a trickle of water crossing the trail. No rushing stream to quickly fill up a bottle of water but using a straw or pump system probably might get you enough. I think it will depend on the time of year and any recent rain. There was nothing like the waterfalls that I showed in my video on the trail head.

@@ruffnitinretirement964 thanks, I appreciate the intel. What time of year were you there?

I was there in June a few years ago.

Yes - there is more than enough rope to put the tent on the ground. In fact, my original lift was from the ground. I lifted the tent about 1 foot and let it rest a few hours to make sure my installation of the hoist system worked as expected. And since then, I have raised/lower the tent several dozen times without issue.

The black straps came with the Harkin system. The green straps are regular ratchet straps that I bought from a big box store (I think it was rated for 300# safe load each for about $12.) I just added an additional set of 4 hooks to independently attach the green straps as a backup system for the Harkin system.

It will never hurt to add more - but I did get a similar question a few months ago and here was my reply "That one got me thinking, the static force would have to be 200 lbs. In my set up, a portion of the weight of the tent is taken up by my backup system. However, I still wanted to investigate your point. The maker of the hoist system must have done this calculation on the vertical wall otherwise they would not sell this system. I found an equation to calculate the screw allowable withdrawal load (F=2880 * SG^2 * dia of screw). If I use an average specific gravity of pine to be 0.4 #/in and a 0.25 diameter screw, this gives a load of 115 #/in penetration meaning that you need to screw the at least 2 inches into the wood to hold 200#." One just has to make sure that they are in the heart of the 2 x 4 stud.

Yes, you are right - the black strap with the chrome buckle is holding all the weight when I lower the tent. Since the system is rated for 200 #s, the buckles should be rated for at least that amount and since they seem to be very sturdy, I bet that they are rated for a lot higher. After 3 years of use, I have not seen any fraying of the straps and confident of the system's ability (but I still use the green straps as a backup). Go to time stamp 12:29 to see how I remove the tent from the truck and onto the hoist system. I slip the black strap underneath the tent while it sits on the bed rails (the tent sits about 4-5 inches above the bed of the truck), then I buckle the straps together.

That one got me thinking, the static force would have to be 200 lbs. In my set up, a portion of the weight of the tent is taken up by my backup system. However, I still wanted to investigate your point. The maker of the hoist system must have done this calculation on the vertical wall otherwise they would not sell this system. I found an equation to calculate the screw allowable withdrawal load (F=2880 * SG^2 * dia of screw). If I use an average specific gravity of pine to be 0.4 #/in and a 0.25 diameter screw, this gives a load of 115 #/in penetration meaning that you need to screw the at least 2 inches into the wood to hold 200#.

Right you are - do not let my civil engineer friend know of my mistake - they are still giving me a hard time when I mixed up cement and concrete terms :)

I do not see why you could not add a winch. However, even manually, it does not weigh too much. If you add a winch, just be careful on how much space you need to spool up the rope. Since it has it has 5 or 6 pulleys, you need 5 or 6 feet of rope to spool for every 1 foot of vertical tent movement.

@@ruffnitinretirement964 Thank you. Where did you get your pigtail style hooks to hold the hoist?

The pigtail screw came as part of the kit from Harken.

I just looked at Amazon (FYI - I do not get any compensation, so no conflict of interest) - they have it as "HARKEN - Truck Cap Overhead Garage Storage Hoist, Self-Leveling, Safe Anti-Drop System, Easy One-Person Operation, Smart Garage Organization". Amazon lists the different models and it is hard to read the model #, so I checked the Harken website. I got the #7806 10 foot model (On Amazon - it looks like either a 4 or 6). This model can handle 200 lbs - just make sure it is the 200 lb version. Since my RTT is 200 lbs, as shown in the video, I added an additional strap system independent of the hoist system that helps carry the weight during storage. The kit does not come with any of the wood - so make sure your wood is not curved or bowed (not the end of the world but makes it easier to install). The Harkin Website has a great video on the install. www.hoister.com/productdetail.aspx?id=6160&taxid=648

@@ruffnitinretirement964 many thanks, appreciate your detailed feedback!

Thanks for the comment - having the pilot on will not keep you warm, but it also allows you not to freeze. I was in Colorado at 9000 ft, and it was in the upper 20s at night and the pilot light kept the tent in the low 50s (with me only). With a good sleeping bag, that was all I needed. Then first thing in the morning, I turn it to low and warm the tent to 70F, then I get out of my sleeping bag. You can always have it on low if you keep a window unzipped but it would consume a lot of propane and the 1lb tank will run out after 2-3 hrs.

Thanks for the feedback - as a newbie in this UA-cam world, I will try to shorten the intro.

Thanks for the feedback - I had to figure out how a one-person system would work while insuring it would never fall on my wife's car.