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Thank you and now I am reconsidering of not doing YWAM. I was thinking about it now I am most certain this might not be for me. Stay strong in the Word bro and in Jesus.

YWAM shouldn't be reformed but disbanded as a (now) dead works based movement. God can and will still use those involved to do something even better, better trained, better equipped, better led, more Gospel focused. YWAM needs to step out of God's way and hear from Him:( see revelation 1 thru 3)

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. God wants all to be saved, not all to be temporarily, physically healed. There is ultimate healing in salvation and the redemption of our bodies. God wants to keep the focus on Him not on what we want him to do for us.

You try not to be with the world and then people behave like the world. It would be so easy if people just stick to the core, just stick to the writing in the bible 🙈 I would say there is a difference between doing something for or with God.. I had a good time at my DTS, but it's true that these guru teachings do not always align with the word.. and God works through whom he pleases, mostly the less important person in the room..

My husband and I did YWAM nearly 12 years ago, that’s where we met. We were students and then we staffed for almost 2 years at our same base. At the time I was in my late 20s and I knew there were problematic things with their organization. But we were so caught up in the emotionalism, it was hard to pull away. Eventually, we did leave, and once we were out, our eyes were truly opened. Now that I have children of my own, I see them for what they truly are. They exploit and manipulate young people for free labor. Their doctrine is false and un biblical. I would never recommend for anyone to attend any of their programs.

If you're a Christian you shouldn't be judging other Christians

I’ve been wanting to to something like YWAM to grow closer to the Lord this season in my life and I’m glad I saw this video.. deff not going to after seeing this . I hate the hyper charismatic , it’s always Gods will to heal type of teaching … dangerous !!

you may want to check out the Catholic Church. I have experienced YWAM in my younger days. Dr. Scott Hahn has a great way to share the good, true and beauty of the Catholic Church and I personally have loved the journey I have been on with it. ua-cam.com/video/WY6zu23mRKw/v-deo.html

Thank you for this video, this has honestly healed me and brought so much clarity and peace to me, over this last year I came back to the lord and have had so much difficulty wuestioning god and I realize now that I was given so much of the wrong character of God. I’ve had such confusion around God and it made me so angry with him because I was coming to him and wanting peace and I was getting nothing but torment from the “godly council” I was getting.

Thank you for sharing... I did my DTS in 1987... In Hawaii. My experience was life-changing and I am so thankful for the biblical teaching and leadership I encountered.

Any Huntington Beach dts experience?

I did some of a dts in Kansas city and was “encouraged to leave” and I never wanted to die so much in my life after coming back I never felt more unloved at a Christian organization in my life, I hated myself felt unbelievably rejected from the other students and the staff were so be littling I left believing I did not have any value. I left not just hating myself but hating the church I have not really been back to church since .

Ywam is a cult

Thanks for sharing!!! ua-cam.com/video/uTan8sUQNUk/v-deo.htmlsi=iCSZJGPi0g-kRmNk

You are a wise young man; God’s Word has instructed you well. 😊

Thank you for sharing from your heart. My wife and I joined YWAM as oldies, being 49 and 46 at the time. We also had been full-time pastors for over thirty years by then, so we had a whole lot of experience in both good and bad leadership and spiritual authority in our lives. We have found that there is this mix in every organization, ministry, denomination, missions movement. YWAM was no exception. We were led by some humble, wise, teachable leaders, but there were others as well. We have learned a few things: to extend mercy to others, but you never have to sit under leadership you feel is usurping the authority of God in your life. He is the ultimate one we each must give account to, not any earthly authority. We chose to submit to leadership, but we did not allow leadership to stifle our voices. And, if a leader can’t hold an intelligent discussion into the basis of their beliefs, they don’t deserve to be a leader. Dietrich Boenhoffer spoke of this understanding that everything is through Christ. A leader must filter their words, actions, attitudes through Christ and not direct them at the one they are speaking to. YWAM moves young people into leadership quickly. It is one of the core values that is risky. I have friends who had incredible outreaches with young leaders (we did, in Finland-life-changing for us); and friends who found themselves in danger of life and limb because of immature leadership decisions. It’s the risk/reward of the program. Unfortunately, many take a concept - let’s choose “hearing Gods voice” and they stop bringing it constantly back to the Word of God (as the Psalmist says “never beyond what is written”). A mature leader is continually on their face before God, with the Word open, seeking wisdom and insight. They are quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to get angry. So the leaders who make the focus to wait until Hod speaks have already moved away from the Word. Spiritual gifts don’t equal spiritual maturity. Measuring a “word” by the tingling sensation it brought is neither Biblical nor wise. We can’t trust our hearts alone. The Word says it’s desperately wicked, who can trust it. But waiting in the Presence for the gifts described in 1 Cor 12-14 is Biblical, yet not to be forced. They are gifts, after all. The mystery of the Charisma is not to be separated from the God-breathed Logos. It is a healthy blending together that leads to maturity. We hope you know that nearly all we have met in YWAM (and we know one of the founders) are incredible lovers of God, and are Biblically sound in their teaching. But it’s a huge movement with hundreds of bases, so there can be and will be leadership that is not the best. It is true in all of life unfortunately. We pray blessing over your life as you carry on in the high calling of God in Christ Jesus!!

Very brave! Well done, Noah!

Thank you so much Noah! I have been looking into DTS with my daughter Jan 2025 when she'll be 18 and have saved enough. I too could not find much about their theology, except I was pleased to see leaders went to Israel a few years back and got insight into the trials of simply being Jewish and living in Israel. The kind of teaching and pressure you're talking of is truly damaging. I wondered if it might be a "per base" issue, but as you went on in your video (and from other comments below your video), it sadly does seem to be more an actual ministry held position on beliefs: e.g. about experience led faith whereas it should be Bible informed faith, and experience lead understanding of God's Word, whereas it should be through sound hermeneutics faithfully employed (taking God's Word as the inspired human authors intended their words - literal historical grammatical hermeneutic). I wonder if you or anyone reading this have come across a ministry that does kind of "package" skill-building/talent extension along with discipleship and outreach but with a solid Biblical base?

Thanks for sharing bro, a lot of people in my area go to something called circuit riders and I was invited a few times by a buddy and it never felt right. It always felt off. Hope you’re doing well on your walk.

“Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,” ‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭15‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NKJV “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭40‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2‬:‭20‬ ‭

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You obviously have some problems and have them still. But going public with accusations seems not to be a wise thing Helping others? I don’t think so, hurting people finding some other hurting people and thinking to warn others and judging things through a filter of hurt very goof idea

Ywam is a melting pot of Christians from different levels of maturity, education, and backgrounds and therefore you can get conflict on certain bases. I doubt that all leaders in Ywam are the same, so I wouldn't say all Ywam hold those views. It's good hearing your discernment. You are right it's not always Gods will to heal, look at Paul that had the throne in the flesh. From my experience with Ywam, it was awesome! I learned a lot, saw people saved, saw people grow in the word, saw people get on fire. But that was Ywam Mazatlan and my leaders came from a solid biblical background. But I'm sure that if I went to your base in Kansas I'd feel the same way you do bro! I would still tell people to go to a DTS but just vet that base before choosing it.

When I was in YWAM, the 80s, we were taught that God’s response in healings is varied and complex. Joy Dawson wrote a book on SOME of His ways in healing and “lack of faith” is not the one catch all easy answer. I’ve seen and experienced healings but as Jesus healed people differently so it still is so. When Jesus raised the dead, the subject didn’t demonstrate any faith.

I just watched another girl’s video before yours and she said the same exact things about a time limit to HAVE to hear God and confessions and people speaking things over you that they say happened in your family but didn’t.

This sounds strangely similar with a popular church in Redding, CA. The ideology, doctrines, teachings, elevation of man, etc. sound so similar to this 90% (+) false church. A little leaven leaven's the whole lump.

I grew up in Wyoming. My entire life. We always went to church. It was always highly promoted

I'm coming to the conclusion that YWAM is it's own 'denomination' and that it is mostly a hyper-charismatic, immature one at that. I'm sure God can work and overcome some of that and even rescue YWAM from itself... but the ignorant, sandy-soil, feelings-oriented, superstitious and largely unaccountable theology that poisons a lot of bases is a huge problem... they need prayers and rescue and real discipling.

Dang man. I’m really sorry for your experience. If it helps yeah like you said 7:32 some people get it some people don’t. Sounds like you were lead by people who don’t. In my experience each base has its flaws and Kona isn’t exempt from that. I hope you’re still pursuing God and his truth. Side note intercession teaching can be and usually is super weird the waiting and silence can be very ostracizing and it can be done better. Again sorry for your experience.

Thank you for sharing.

Brother I did the ywam thing back in 1978 to 1981. I was a young Christian wanted experience the real world of being a follower of Jesus, I did the DTS in Montana, yea I learned alot, went to Mexico on the mission trip, at first my experience was good, then I went to Saipan as a staff member. The small group leaders were very controlling, wasn't allowed to have a relationship. When the Director good hurt, he put these 2 people in charge, I knew how they were, very abusive, I went to the Director and tried to explain what was going on, he said those folks are in charge. I did confront them, again they told me I was rebel, I was supposed to submit unto them as I would unto God. So I can really relate what you went through. Appreciate you brother, stay strong in the Word, the verse for you is this John:16:33. Read it and be encouraged and rejoice, God Bless, Love you in Jesus, Ernie.

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Wow! Thank you so much for sharing this video. I agree with everything you said theology wise. I have been thinking and praying about YWAM for a few years now because I just have this huge ache in my heart to learn more and to share the gospel and travel. I finally made up my mind to start saving for it to go in 2025. But, now, with these things you mentioned, I am definitely cautious. I don't want to open myself up to those things that do not align with the Bible or the God the Bible says is true. Thank you so much for sharing. Now I'm a little stumped however, because I do still feel like God is wanting me to go somewhere and do something missions related in 2025... I just don't know what. Are there any schools or missions alternatives you would recommend?

I was wondering what happened to this channel

Ok, so his experience is that “YWAM is wicked” in his words. But this guy and many of these comments (who also bash YWAM) have stayed in it long enough to do extra schools. So if its so bad why would you stay in it? His opinions are just his, not accurate at all.

Thank you for sharing. I almost send my daughter there and did not bc I know couple of friends who left our church bc we don’t chase and emphasize healing and miracle.

Dude, I’ve had almost all of these thoughts about my DTS. I also did the Kansas City DTS, there are some seriously damaging theologies. All of it caused me to have a crisis of faith which I’m still healing from and I will probably have to for awhile. If anyone reads this pray for me.

My former church sent an intern to YWAM Atlanta. At one point I even considered going on a DTS because I couldn’t afford Bible college. But when I researched it there were things that really concerned me about their theogony so I decided to not do it.

I hear you! I am currently staff in YWAM Marseille, and I agree with God's will is not always to heal! My suggestion is to go to more bases the base changes so much and it is not unnormal to find a base with faults. I have been to more than 10 bases the heart of every base is the same and that is simply to love God and Others which is Jesus's greatest commanded

Thank you! I was considering YWAM for my kids. This answers my questions. So much of this crazy unbiblical teaching is hurting the church and hindering the lost.

I would never support ywam. Why? Because of the Church's they are involved with that I know teach Wrong Doctrine. It's that simple.

YWAM doesn't follow or teach God's Doctrine. It's a "pic and choose" ministry. Believers should avoid this program.

I finished my DTS two weeks ago. I have to say I can agree that there are some young leaders who are pretty immature and did hurt me. But because of that I don’t want to look at these amazing 5 months I had and only think about that. Sometimes I was mad and disappointed when they didn’t take faith as serious or go out and evangelizing. But you know what everyone has there story and is at a different point in there life. But my dear brother I want to encourage you to be open to the Holy Spirit. Many things you had addressed for example that it was weird to wait for gods voice to speak to us.. actually I think that is a sign of closing your heart or being afraid or religious. God wants to have a personal relationship with us as well. I wish you peace. Shalom

Where did you do your DTS?

This is very helpful. Thank you for laying yourself vulnerable and speaking out.

Thank you for this, I was just about to throw away 15000 dollars for this and I want to learn real theology and do missions. This def is not the place

The teaching that God always heals is not confined to YWAM. Sadly it is prevalent today, even amongst some excellent Bible teachers. Do get hold of anything you can about Dorothy Kerin. She was amazingly healed in 1916, ( before some of the kind of teaching we get from the US today), after being sent back from Heaven. She went on to have an amazing healing ministry. Her teaching is very balanced on the subject of whether all are healed. She was an Anglo- Catholic, and believes that she was visited by Mary. If you are non-catholic, do not let that put you off her teaching on healing. As a Protestant, I believe there are other explanations. The good news is that this kind of testimony is not common.