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Frankel better than Black Cavier ? (All truth in this video)
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  • @GBeret83
    @GBeret83 6 місяців тому

    This is a quote from the book that came out about Black Caviar made by her trainer Peter Moody. QUOTE: "I've been around horses all of my life and I've never known one better than Black Caviar. I find judging her place in racing history hard because I'm so close to her. That's why I've always deferred to other people's opinions. What I do know is this, Black Caviar is the finest horse I've ever seen or worked with.........until I saw Frankel win on that Tuesday at Royal-Ascot." End quote. Enough said!!

  • @fatboy5926
    @fatboy5926 Рік тому

    I still say - Black Caviar was as good a sprinter as Frankel was a miler 🤷‍♂️ they are both clearly not even close the best sprinter and the best miler I’ve ever seen. The only thing that annoys me is whenever we see Frankel/BC or even a Frankel vs BC video - if Caviar has a replay shown it’s always Ascot. Her worst performance she didn’t travel well got injured and still won. She’s got like 15 other mental wins a couple literally not getting out of first gear beating group 1 horses 😂 but no we see Ascot 😢 anyway both just freaks

  • @billymcconnell1547
    @billymcconnell1547 Рік тому

    Frankel was better than any flat racehorse that ever walked the Earth.

  • @philipbrailey
    @philipbrailey 2 роки тому

    Not in a million years.

  • @paradisereef6994
    @paradisereef6994 2 роки тому

    Black caviar would smoke it

  • @MELODYMUNRO
    @MELODYMUNRO 2 роки тому

    Winx better than both of them ... and then there's Makybe Diva

  • @troutriver8659
    @troutriver8659 2 роки тому

    Is this the same frankel that only raced in races set up for him. The same frankel that beat the same horse 4 times the same horse that just about got home against a terrible field. I can name you 5 better horses through the generations easily

  • @Reactiverse22
    @Reactiverse22 2 роки тому

    Black caviar came to your track and won frankle has never left UK and yet yall call him the best in the world 🤣🤣 complete fkn jokes you all are in uk

  • @jimmych1pper926
    @jimmych1pper926 2 роки тому

    Frankel wudve smoked the lot of them, Frankel didnt have to go to Australia to race, Royal Ascot yous come here, england is where the greatest horse run end of

  • @metminco
    @metminco 2 роки тому

    One was a sprinter, the other was more a 9f horse. Both great horses at their distances but not the best ever.

  • @tomasspirik814
    @tomasspirik814 2 роки тому

    Black Caviar was been best racing horse in World

  • @FIntyMAcC10
    @FIntyMAcC10 2 роки тому

    Over 5f black caviar, over 1m+ frankel

  • @martinclail9290
    @martinclail9290 3 роки тому

    Dunadem won the Melbourne cup, Caulfield cup and HK Vase, raced twice against St Nicholas Abbey winner of the Breeders cup turf and was firmly put in his place. Frankel ran against St Nicholas Abbey and beat him easily by 7 lengths. Anyone saying Frankel beat nothing need to look at the horses he beat and then look at the horses they beat then come back with the same argument.

    • @pauldaniels2179
      @pauldaniels2179 Рік тому

      Winks lost two a few some by 15 lengths lol Infact one of them was First Seal(buy many lengths) but things can turn around with Winks smashing Seal by many lengths, and getting her revenge by many. Lengths. Anything can happen on different days... She turned into a freak later on...

  • @an08p
    @an08p 3 роки тому

    When I cannot compare champions who never raced each other, I look at the breeding stats to rank them. Those who do it on both are the ultimate champions.

  • @AbdulSattar-gq8np
    @AbdulSattar-gq8np 4 роки тому

    Nothing can match Frankel!!

  • @andreasandreou1705
    @andreasandreou1705 4 роки тому

    Frankel in a different level. End.

  •  4 роки тому

    Frankel at his best, was and is, the Greatest race horse, you and I and anyone on this planet, could ever have the privilege to observe. There has never been and probably never will be another like him. EDDERY, CARSON, DETTORI, CUMANI, HUGHES, all say Frankel has no peers. EDDERY'S comment was "I have never seen anything close to him" and don't forget Pat won the Arc on Dancing Brave CARSON commented "There will never ever be one like him". We can comment all day long but when you hear guys like them say this there is your answer.!!!!.👍🌹

  • @russe19642
    @russe19642 4 роки тому

    So?in short no he wasnt. Did come to Australia yet we sent blacks there and im sure you soap doging pims would say the same thing if he did and she didnt.How can you call something a champion when he needed a pacemaker?couldn't he rate his ow pace or did he need assistance,seems all to dodgy for my liking and whats with only four horse fields and one of those fricken four is your stablemate,unbelievable,but i guess easy way to rack up cheap ratings

  • @andrewking6562
    @andrewking6562 4 роки тому

    In a zone of his own, says it all! Love it.

  • @wayneo1269
    @wayneo1269 4 роки тому

    Bullet train Frankels pacemaker this is laughable to be honest.

  •  4 роки тому

    No horse could have beaten Frankel End off.

  • @russe19642
    @russe19642 5 років тому

    A career that can be summed up in six minutes,far to long I think.

  • @elgransenor1472
    @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

    The Aussies complain that our horses didn't go and challenge Winx, they constantly said "bring your horses here to challenge her, the rest of the world should send their horses to Australia to take her on". Waller uttered some glib line about planes going in both directions. Well the other countries did travel. So it looks like the planes did only go one way. Coolmore, Godolphin and Japanese stables all sent horses halfway around the world to race her. About 8 or 10 horses from overseas did go out there and race her. But Winxs connections never had the respect and manners to do those overseas connections the honour of a rematch on their home turf. Highland Reel and Benbatl travelled halfway round the world and took her on in her own backyard with all the odds stacked in her favour. In 2017 when Winx was at her peak Highland Reel ran over 10f at Royal Ascot, where was Winx? Why didn't her owners return the favour to Highland Reel and give him a chance for a rematch on his home turf? Or even in the USA on neutral ground. Nuh Uh! If you took her on in her own backyard don't expect to get a rematch unless it was 100% on her terms where she had all the advantages and everything was stacked in her favour. Pretty poor really. Highland Reel especially should have been given that respect after he travelled to race her. Why didn't Winxs connections give him a rematch in the the Prince of Wales at Ascot in 2017 or in the USA at the Breeders Cup? Godolphin raced against her a couple of times and should have been given the respect of a rematch on their home turf, never happened.

  • @russe19642
    @russe19642 5 років тому

    To all my combative horse followers have a great xmas and hope you line your pockets in the new year,happy punting all

  • @russe19642
    @russe19642 5 років тому

    European horses need pacemakers to win,you don't get that crap in australia so the races a full on unlike your set ups.Bigger fields in australia as well.im not going to bag frankel obviously fine horse,but aussies rule

    • @mrvillan6951
      @mrvillan6951 3 роки тому

      The Aussies used to regularly send horses to Royal Ascot to win races. Then steroids were banned in their country, as they had been everywhere else for years. Then guess what? They don't sent them anymore. Makes you wonder if the previous winners were all Lance Armstrongs.

  • @hannibalbarca3086
    @hannibalbarca3086 5 років тому

    Secretariat and frankel

  • @kepnjem
    @kepnjem 5 років тому

    Personally, I think Enable is the best. Wishing her well for the Yorkshire Oaks next Wednesday and then for her 3rd Arc victory in October. 😘

  • @edwinhowell225
    @edwinhowell225 5 років тому

    yes good horses make good make it to the top..jockey guide the horse.the lad looks after the horse well in the stable, and see the horse well, Who is Sir Hendry Cecil, a man who loved his horses a man who use to talk to to his horses, even to his hack,. in his first year he study his horse he knew Wolow Hollow Rain in face, Karen, and many more these were his first lot. Sir Cecil was a true lover of horses. May his sole rest in peace.

  • @cmrcz7550
    @cmrcz7550 5 років тому

    Some respect please! Stop comparing horses to Frankel!! He was the King.

  • @ahremck
    @ahremck 5 років тому

    Apart from the fact that Black Caviar was a pure sprinter. There is no way he would have got close if she was well. You only saw a sick horse win the King Stand. A fairer comparison is Winx who won the best handicap and WFA miles in Australia as well as the most important WFA race in Australia the10 furlong W.S.Cox Plate 4 years in a row. She won 33 races in a row over 4 yearsbefore retiring. All were Group races including 25 G1 (one streak of 10 in a row). She was versatile winning at 8 different courses - from 6.5 furlongs to 11 furlongs in that run. She too raced on grass and you will see that her times weere exccellent - wet or dry conditions made no difference.

    • @leesog3203
      @leesog3203 5 років тому

      Frankel absolutely would have went with Black Caviar. On level terms, I have no doubt he would have beat her, but giving the weight away, it may have been hard for him. On the other hand, it may have been easy and he may have won by daylight. It's really hard to tell. All I know is, he clocked sectionals to match Dayjur who was the best Sprinter we've had in decades. Black Caviar was likely as good, so it would have been some race.

  • @donmatt74
    @donmatt74 5 років тому

    Wouldn’t a race between Winx and Frankel over 10 furlongs be the race of the century?

    • @mrvillan6951
      @mrvillan6951 3 роки тому

      No. Frankel would have won comfortably.

    • @kingfisher2175
      @kingfisher2175 3 роки тому

      Neither raced out of their own back yard. Both wrapped in cotton wool their entire careers.

    • @mrvillan6951
      @mrvillan6951 3 роки тому

      @@kingfisher2175 If Frankel had travelled he would have faced inferior competition. All the best horses were in England and Ireland.

    • @aidanjoyce3248
      @aidanjoyce3248 3 роки тому

      No contest. Frankel would destroy her.

  • @travels129
    @travels129 5 років тому

    Would eat winx eat and spit out

    • @cmrcz7550
      @cmrcz7550 5 років тому

      Winx would have a very hard time with Frankel's opposition,yet alone the King himself

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      I think you meant her dust

    • @BISH9484
      @BISH9484 5 років тому

      Sectionals say otherwise...so keep dreaming!!!!

  • @StravedOfAttention
    @StravedOfAttention 5 років тому

    im taking winx at any distance from 1200m to 2000m shes a freak 33 straight wins 4 cox plates unreal if frankel was so great should of brought him here to race the best we took black cavier to england and won so frankel come on down and prove yaself

    • @patricksmith3432
      @patricksmith3432 5 років тому

      Frankel would have wiped the floor with winx and black caviar

    • @mav1733
      @mav1733 5 років тому

      has winx raced at royal ascot yet

    • @benbim540
      @benbim540 5 років тому

      what best did Winx beat Benbatl and Hartnell both x European and both miles behind the best in Europe.

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

      You do know Frankel retired to stud about five years ago you idiot?

    • @jongoldsworthy4954
      @jongoldsworthy4954 3 роки тому

      The Group 1 horses in England and Ireland are far superior horses..compared to Australia..

  • @Feral6-h3g
    @Feral6-h3g 5 років тому

    In my life time and not in any order Secretariat, Frankel, Mikybe Diva, Black Caviar, Winx are my favs.

    • @TheReevessss
      @TheReevessss 5 років тому

      Winx all the way for the day. No contest! Secretariat & Seabiscuit were fully challenged stand-outs too. But long distance stayer there will never be anything close to the great Phar Lap.

    • @mav1733
      @mav1733 5 років тому

      what about brigadiar gerrard and shergar

    • @leesog3203
      @leesog3203 5 років тому

      @@TheReevessss Who knows how great Secretariat was on Turf, if he could have competed with the best of the Europeans.. But one things for certain, Winx wouldn't have sniffed the ass of Frankel, Seabird of Ribot. They where cut from a different cloth. And reign in completely different leagues. Timeform winx 134 Ribot 142 Seabird 145 Frankel 147 (Almost a stone superior to Winx).

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

      Lee SOG Even then Winx is overrated. Within 8lb of Ribot. Absolute bollocks.

  • @seanp7871
    @seanp7871 6 років тому

    So stupid. Black caviar was a 1200 1400 meter horse . Be close B/c was a freak Winx would destroy Frankel over a mile the end

    • @seanp7871
      @seanp7871 4 роки тому

      George Thompson listen to this never understand the sport of kings . Gezz , you imbecile

  • @quidnunc2436
    @quidnunc2436 6 років тому

    Nothing in the world would have got near Frankel over a mile. Certainly NOTHING from Aussieland.

    • @seanp7871
      @seanp7871 5 років тому

      Piff

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      Wouldn't know he hardly raced in fields more than four horses,would have been bullied by Australian horses like we bully your sporting teams

  • @ahashim3404
    @ahashim3404 6 років тому

    " I would be very surprised if there has been a better race horse in the history of racing" says the greatest trainer ever. RIP H.C

  • @bgardiner3354
    @bgardiner3354 6 років тому

    When I read the title I thought “this will be load of tripe.” And I was right...

    • @leesog3203
      @leesog3203 5 років тому

      When I saw your comment, I thought "he's gotta be an aborigine, or at least a descendent of one".. And I was right.

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      @Joel Blinder he's a pom can't get over always losing

  • @margh1004
    @margh1004 6 років тому

    She is beautiful she broke my heart she made me cry when she retired I am so glad I got the chance to see my god she is in my heart forever 💝😘😉😇😇

    • @leesog3203
      @leesog3203 5 років тому

      She was wonderful. Timeform 136. One of the best ever :)

    • @bnapilo
      @bnapilo 3 роки тому

      Are you referring to caviar

  • @blueenglishstaffybreeder6956
    @blueenglishstaffybreeder6956 6 років тому

    Let’s talk facts, Winx has won 29 straight, 22 of them group 1’s, more than any horse in history, I don’t like to compare champions or to rate 1 against the other but everyone here is doing it, in this case the facts are the facts, compare times over the same distances and Winx has them all covered including Frankel, timeform is bullshit and bias towards English and European horses, you only have to look at the champions that aren’t there, Secretariat being one of them, Pharlap another, the list goes on, so to all the fat arse arm chair critics who have the courage to sit behind their computer screens and criticise everything go back to masturbating in the dark corner where mummy can’t see you and whoop down that cheeseburger and shut the hell up, do your research first and fact check everything including times over similar distances then make an educated comment on which horse is superior instead of your ill informed waste of oxygen

    • @benbim540
      @benbim540 5 років тому

      Let me ask u a question why year after year do European horses completely dominate the Melbourne cup. the answer is simple international ratings are overrating Aussie horses and underrating European horses that's why when they clash in handicaps the euro's completely dominate. for the aussie horses to end the domination their ratings will have to come down by at least 4 lb.

  • @earlmilligan3476
    @earlmilligan3476 6 років тому

    Rankings mean nothing..Unless they race against each other it's just an opinion..My opinion is Winx is the best race horse ever..

  • @perunsvetovid7179
    @perunsvetovid7179 6 років тому

    Street Cry is better than anyone else, not to mention that his sire's are the two most famous daughters - Zenyatta and Winx .

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      Yeh I'll go with that,going to have to do some research on him

  • @karendoyle4761
    @karendoyle4761 6 років тому

    Winx has taken Black Caviar's Crown, 27 straight wins, BOTH are Queen's of the turf ANYWHERE!! Frankel? He'd still be running....a good horse but not good enough.

    • @iceman9646
      @iceman9646 6 років тому

      Deluded

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

      That must mean Kinscem is the greatest racehorse of all time. Winning 33 doesn't make Winx better than Black Caviar and winning 25 doesn't make Black Caviar better than Frankel. Stupid comment.

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      My sentiment exactly kazza,far to overrated Frankel,enable miles better

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      @@elgransenor1472 hey she came there to the UK conquered and when exactly did farknell race overseas and not in fields of only four horse,overrated

  • @grahamleadbeatter5981
    @grahamleadbeatter5981 6 років тому

    What an amazing champion Frankel was, so to was Black Caviar, and so to is Winx. To say otherwise is to trivialize the outstanding achievements of all of them.

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 4 роки тому

      Here here

    • @thexentrader897
      @thexentrader897 4 роки тому

      when i look at the race times of the same distance winx and frankel raced winx had better times why cant we use the race times in judging who's a faster horse

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 4 роки тому

      @@thexentrader897 thats correct,its the sectionals winx runs that would stuff frankel up with his sprint home from 800 or 600 out,she'd take that out of him and even if they were level pegging her closing sectionals were still faster than his

    • @AbsolutelyEverybody1
      @AbsolutelyEverybody1 4 роки тому

      So You Think - also a champion.

    • @marklulham3148
      @marklulham3148 3 роки тому

      @@thexentrader897 because different track conditions. Longer grass and damper surfaces in UK versus shorter grass and harder surfaces in Australia. Timeform uses time ratings and Frankel wins comfortably anyway.

  • @gt7436
    @gt7436 6 років тому

    Why don't the Pommie horse owners back them and come to Australia. You all reckon it is inferior here so they should get a good pay day when they come over.... Enable is quality as is Winx... Frankel was also quality, so bring them over here and see how good they are.... would still fancy Winx over 1600m- 2000m, Enable probably edges it over the 2400m... but that's my opinion... listen to the Audio and ignore video, how the fuck did you mange to get Batman to speak on behalf of Frankel!!

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 6 років тому

      G T Why doesn't Christiano Ronaldo go and play for Brisbane Roar to prove he's better than Aussie footballers? The same reason European horses don't send their best horses to race in Australia. It's third rate. You might have big prizemoney but that's like putting lipstick on a pig. Tim Cahill came to Europe to prove himself, it's up to Winx to do the same.

    • @keithbeatson5247
      @keithbeatson5247 5 років тому

      @@elgransenor1472 p

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

      Keith Beatson ???????????????

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

      The answer to your question is because they want to run in much more important races. No horse with a live chance in the Irish Champion, Juddmote, Arc or Champion Stks would give that up to run in Australia. Nobody who owns any of the best 5 middle distance horses in Europe is interested in the Cox Plate. Ballydoyle could have brought SYT back to Aus to win a third or fourth Cox Plate but they clearly thought running in Europe was more important

  • @dukeschomberg2320
    @dukeschomberg2320 6 років тому

    facebook.com/groups/165329060793178/

  • @frobsey
    @frobsey 6 років тому

    so many others could race here Nothern dancer Secretariat Nijinsky Point Given and many more.Frankel may have been the best, but I doubt it.

  • @mav1733
    @mav1733 6 років тому

    whos the highest rated horse in history????

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 5 років тому

      Who had the fasted recorded average speed?winx BOOM 67.5 Farknel 69.4 Winx BOOM

  • @flamingfrancis
    @flamingfrancis 6 років тому

    I couldn't give a bag of droppings (horseshit) as to which horse anybody prefers. There have been several equine champions on several continents that have, or should have, given us all great pleasure and pride in watching their performances over the years. Bless then all for providing a passion. Marvellous animals all.

    • @paulohara8967
      @paulohara8967 6 років тому

      Yes all belong in the same heaven. Grateful to have many winners, not like the Olympic Games where there can only be one.

    • @elgransenor1472
      @elgransenor1472 5 років тому

      I prefer Frankel. Black Caviar second and I think Winx is far behind them both.

  • @rumelali6306
    @rumelali6306 6 років тому

    No horse is to be compared to Frankel so leave out black caviar. .Or winx or any other horse ..